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Predator Hunting => Night Hunting => Topic started by: nepahunter17 on November 29, 2015, 08:20:07 AM
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how is the carnivore light vrs the wicked 402. how much farther can you see an animal with it?
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My buddy has the wicked light and we made the comparison two weeks ago. Frankly there is no comparison.
We had a fox sitting at 300 yds with his light the eyes were barely visable and no Id could be made, I kept telling him it was a fox, he didn't believe me so I had him get behind my gun and he says wow you were right! The carnivore light is no joke and worth every penny!
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thanks for info
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If you're serious about night hunting, there is no other choice but the Carnavore light. I think I've tried just about every light on the market and NOTHING comes close to the Carnavore. Most light I've tried don't even come close to what they are claiming.... The Carnavore does. It is truly an amazing light!!!!
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I echo what has been said about the Carnivore..I run an older model from several years ago and its still a great light. I use an older model XLR 100 for a scanner and have the Carnivore mounted to my tri pod.. combo has worked well for me for several years...tried many others but always come back to this original set up...
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Just got a wicked scanpro headlamp 2 weeks ago...Awsome scan light..excellent battery burn time...I hunted with it twice so far and hit a been awsome
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How bright is the carnivore scanning light? I have read on here that with the kill light, people can distinguish between a red and a grey fox from 300 yards. Does anyone have any direct comparison between the two? I can only afford to purchase one light and I'm trying to make my decision. Thanks.
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Hands down the Carnavore is a better light. I have a wicked light and IMO it's like comparing a scan light to a shoot light.
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My buddy has the wicked light and we made the comparison two weeks ago. Frankly there is no comparison.
We had a fox sitting at 300 yds with his light the eyes were barely visable and no Id could be made, I kept telling him it was a fox, he didn't believe me so I had him get behind my gun and he says wow you were right! The carnivore light is no joke and worth every penny!
Well...if your going to shoot 300 yrds...then you've heard the comparison....but i could id a fox at 200 yards the other night with my wicked scanpro..which,i thought was awsome.....so i guess it depends on money and how serious your going to hunt....if i had to money to blow...it be a coyote light...the best of the best for 400.00. These light posts could go on and on....Get what you can afford and know your limations...just my 2ยข Rusty
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Well spoken Predator53
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I have the wicked 402 i am happy with but there has ben a handful
Of time i wished i had little more light. Thats only reason i started tbis
Post.
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The only way to really know is for YOU to do a side by side comparison. Then YOU be the judge . You're the one who has to be happy with it and that's all that counts
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I use a coyote light it's a pricy piece but well worth the money.
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In my opinion the Carnivore 2 is damn near identical to the coyote light in brightness for less than half the money. That is not a knock on the coyote light.
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Carnivore 2 is amazing and so is the price. I won the scan light and was impressed with it so I got the gun light and it didn't disappoint. I would recommend it to anyone.
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I hear y'all talking about identifying a red or grey at 300 yards... that's to much light... you'll be blinding them unless you keep them in the halo... they, just like you are uncomfortable with a to bright light in your eyes...
if you see them blinking and turning their head away from the light, it's because they are uncomfortable with your light... tone it down... even when I was using my 6volt Nitelite, I'd dial it down a bit when they started getting blinky on me and they'd settle down and come on in...
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You can turn down the carnivores. I don't and have never lost one because of the light. I don't turn my gun light on till I'm ready to shoot though.
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How does the Carnivore 2 stand up to Night Eyes F6 Gun Light?
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I have both lights and there really is no comparison other than to say they are both lights.
The carnivore light is approx 3 times brighter than the night eyes shoot light.
I will run the night eyes on my shotgun when I take it out for the night and I have no complaints with that application.
I'm in no way saying the night eyes shoot light is a bad light, just giving you my honest answer.
The plus for the night eyes is that for the money it comes as a complete set up. Charger, light, batteries and toggle switch.
My preference is to have the brightest light out there on my rifle and that is the Carnivore Magnum.
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+1
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Bought a "Carnivore 2" hunting light and i'm very disappointed to say the least. Not by the light, it as good as advertised. I'm disapointed that i was taken for the price and the misnomer that this is a custom light while it just a Chinese red led that you can order yourself from Crelant. Its good but not worth 167.00 good. Most hunters I know are streching it a bit to even get a decent light. I decided to order 15 for me and my hunting buddies and they were 65.00 apiece. They came in three days and they are even better then the old one i bought for way to much money. The best part is they gave me a 40% discount for ordering 15 so the price was 39.16 for each!!! I think thats enough to get a little ticked off about!! What do you think. And oh, that price is with shipping and taxes. If you want to know more just PM me. Thanks 17Hornet
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Are the Chinese lights as bright as the carnivore 2?
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The hoods on the Carnivore are awesome! You have to watch what and where you get batteries for lights. Some Panosonic batteries have flat positive end. This will not work. You need the one with the positive cap or bead. Things like this can cause you lose big bucks $$$$$. I donated hundreds of lights to Goodwill. Dedicated predator hunters are always looking for the Golden bullet. The right light, hood, and right battery are mandatory to bag our Eastern Coyotes.
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Bigcat
The Chinese lights are the "Carnivore". Matter of fact the new group I bought direct from the company cutting out the middle man is better them the one I bought for 167.00!!!
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I really find that hard to believe. They may look the same. I compared mine ,carnivore 2, to the new wicked light last week and it was just as bright if not brighter.
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Yep, I did too!
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I don't want to come across the wrong way in this post. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and we respect that. Having said that, we all agree, those who have and used the Carnivore 2 shoot light, agree that it's a fantastic shoot light. Let's not beat up on one of our sponsors just because we later find another vender selling it cheaper, after the fact. I choose to pay his asking price. His price is within reason compared to other light manufacturers. If I feel that the light wasn't worth the asking price, I wouldn't have paid it. If I later find the same or similar product cheaper, then that's on me for not doing my homework.
All I'm trying to convey here is this..... EW calls has always been a good sponsor and long time member. He puts out a good quality product and stands behind it. Don't be negative on the boards just because you later didn't like the price. He didn't force anyone to purchase his product, we all willingly did it on our own.
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wow.....
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Agree with Mister....EW is top notch ..and stands behind all their products...and is a supporter of PPHA without these sponsors...PPHA has no voice....Oh by the way..love my Wicked lights!
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17 hornet
I purchase the lights from crelant. I then purchased a better Led and heat sink in the USA and send them to crelant. Then i had them install the new red Led with the new copper heat sink. Then I have would have them run the circuit to the specks I requested. So they cost me a lot more then $67.00
The easy way you can tell them apart is to look at it and see if it has the copper heat sink in the light.
If crelant in China is selling a light as bright as mine they would have to start making the lights from the specks and equipment I sent them.
Look to see if the one you purchased from china,has the copper heat sink.
You can even call me if you need help looking at the heat sink and led. I would like to know if they copying my work.
Ernie 717 468 7912
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I just took apart both lights side by side. There is no difference that is detectable from the human eye inside or out. It looks like there is a copper piece inside what would be the underneath of the led. The led is the same. Outside at 300 yards these are a little better then yours. IMHO.
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17 hornet
I guess I'm going to buy one to see what it looks and test like.
Thanks for looking
Ernie
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17 Hornet
I unable to find the red Led light for sale.
The only one that I can find is a white light for $82.28.
Can you send me the link you purchased this light?
Thanks Ernie
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17 hornet
Can you send me the link so I can purchase this light you talked about?
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Ernie, he stated earlier in this post, or in another post, that to get the red lens light that you have to either email or call the company to order. It's only available in white on the website.
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I believe TheBig1 is correct on that. 17 hornet communicated directly with crelant. I checked the website and only found it available in white also.
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17 Hornet
I am still interested in you posting the link were you purchase these lights.
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Just talk directly to Crelant. That's what I did. You deal with them all the time right, so just contact them.
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17 hornet
I do talk to them. I'm just curious how they got all the parts to make the same light as me. I will talk to them. Who are you so I can reference you. You can pm me to keep it private
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Nope, done with this topic so let's drop it. You know how to get in touch with them. If they are undercutting you then take it up with them. Thanks 17 Hornet
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17 hornet
I have just sent this information to my contact at crelant about this post and it,s information.
Thanks.
Ernie
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Sounds good
17 Hornet
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17 Hornet
This is the response I received from Crelant
From what they say it is true.
If I were looking for a light this is the one you should purchase. They are using all the,same parts that I had them build.
The price is unbeatable. China is noted for this type underhanded manufacturer of products. If nothing else comes out of this everybody should end up with good light at a price everyone can afford.
See I am still helping predator hunters get the best stuff they can get. :-)
Ernie
Hi Ernie
I sent some emails to you last year, but didn't get reply. That's so nice to hear from you again.
Those red flashlights not as same as yours, the copper substrate was bought in China. And we didn't make the halo shield.
We still kept your leds and the copper substrate, are you going to place the order soon?
Have a nice day!
Best regards,
Vivian
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From: Ernest Wilson
Date: 2016-03-02 14:15
To: crelant team-vivian
Subject: Lights
Vivian
I was informed that you now sell a crelant red led light as powerfull as the the one I had you make for me with the same type parts i sent you. Is this correct that you now make such a light? He said he paid $69 for the crelant light can you confirm any of this possible
Thanks
Ernie
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Also if you go straight to Crelant lights you might be able to purchase this light for a lot cheaper if 17 hornet is selling them for $65
China is hurting and there economy is not in good shape this year.
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I'm not at all surprised by this. China is always trying to undercut someone. As I mentioned in another post, I am a mountain biker. There are sellers on ebay from China selling bike parts way cheaper than sellers from the U.S. Sometimes unbelievably cheaper. Unfortunately, that's the nature of the beast when dealing with a global market.
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If you buy 15 you get a 40% discount. They came out to be 39.00 each. The lights are awesome though! Sold 4 for 65 if I ship or 55 if you pick up. I made 10 to 15 bucks. Just trying to make my money back and help out the little guys. Trying to buy some of the c10 headlights with the profits.
17 Hornet
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Is hornet a sponsor? If not I don't think he should be
Doing business deals through the club?
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17Hornet Please refrain from trying to sell the lights on these forum boards.
If you would like to become a sponsor then you would be allowed to sell your products here, other wise you could be removed.
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how much is a sponsorship to the PPHA?
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$25.00
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Not trying to sell anything. Was just telling Ernie that I wasn't making a profit. Will sell to my friends though.
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My option is if you can get a group purchase and get this light it is a good thing.
If you 17 hornet is a member of PPHA and wants to do a group purchase for PPHA members this is a good thing.
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17 Hornet
This is the response I received from Crelant
From what they say it is true.
If I were looking for a light this is the one you should purchase. They are using all the,same parts that I had them build.
The price is unbeatable. China is noted for this type underhanded manufacturer of products. If nothing else comes out of this everybody should end up with good light at a price everyone can afford.
See I am still helping predator hunters get the best stuff they can get. :-)
Ernie
Hi Ernie
I sent some emails to you last year, but didn't get reply. That's so nice to hear from you again.
Those red flashlights not as same as yours, the copper substrate was bought in China. And we didn't make the halo shield.
We still kept your leds and the copper substrate, are you going to place the order soon?
Have a nice day!
Best regards,
Vivian
Support OEM & ODM Service!
Skype: vivian-led
Wechat: vivi19901110
Website: www.crelant.com
Whatsapp/ Mobile: +86-13713318010
P Save a tree. Don't print this e-mail unless it's really necessary
From: Ernest Wilson
Date: 2016-03-02 14:15
To: crelant team-vivian
Subject: Lights
Vivian
I was informed that you now sell a crelant red led light as powerfull as the the one I had you make for me with the same type parts i sent you. Is this correct that you now make such a light? He said he paid $69 for the crelant light can you confirm any of this possible
Thanks
Ernie
Sounds to me like you should have kept the assembly here in the states
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NEPAHunter17,
Did you get that info that you wanted on where you can buy the light cheaper? Just wanted to make sure you got the info you personal messaged me for. Good luck on buying one. Let me know how it goes
17Hornet
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I am not buying one was curious if it was the same light but found it to not be the same