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Predator Hunting => Night Hunting => Topic started by: predator77 on June 24, 2011, 10:32:31 AM
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Is this the kill light I would want for fox? What else shouls I get with it, if this is the original kill light..
http://www.amazon.com/XLR250-Mounted-Batteries-Wildlife-Technologies/dp/B004GEG0QY (http://www.amazon.com/XLR250-Mounted-Batteries-Wildlife-Technologies/dp/B004GEG0QY)
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That is the original Kill-Light, but that price is $10 above retail..
I am a local dealer from here in Pa and I sell these for retail of $139.99 with free shippping.
My website is www.boondock-outdoors.com
If you have any questiions feel free to email me at boondockoutdoors@verizon.net
Jeremiah
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Thanks Jeremiah. I just placed an order for the red 250 kit and halo shield. Hope I love it as much as everyone else does. Ian
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I am sure you will. I have the 100 & 250 and love them both.
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Ian,
I received your order, it will ship tomorrow by USPS Priority mail.
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Thank you!
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No, Thank you. I Appreciate the order.
Jeremiah
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I received it today. Thanks for the fast shipping. :D
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No, Thank you for your order. Please email me and let me know how you like it. boondockoutdoors@verizon.net
Jeremiah
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predator77
I would like to know how you like the light. I think it is a great light to hunt with.
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So far, I love it. I hope it's not too bright for fox that are under 50 yards but I'm very happy with the 250 package. Light,caps and mounts seem well constructed and is alot better than having a 6 volt lantern on your scope. Between this light, my new Jack attack and soft body johnny Stewart call, I am pumped for Nov.
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Predator 77
The light is not to bright for up close fox. I have had them into 5 yards with no problem. Sometimes I would even like a little more light for longer shots. But carrying the extra weight of more powerful lights is not worth it.
You will get to like it even more after you use it for a wile. Good luck.
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hows everybody using these kill lights?? Mounted to your gun, hand held? Is it your scanning light? If its mounted to your gun and you scan with it wont your gun be pointed at anything the light hits, possibly people, houses??am i missin something??
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No, your not missing anything. Most including myself use a seperate scanning light either handheld or hat mounted. My kill light is mounted on my rifle for shooting. After I id the animal, I switch over to my scanning light for the shot. Of course both are always on in my case.
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thanks, tim that makes sense now , what light are you useing for scanning??
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bdawg,
I have been using the EWT kill-light XLR100 for scanning and the XLR250 for a shooting light for the past season. I have never had a better combination for predator hunting..
Jeremiah
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Im still on the fence about getting one, Right now I use a head lamp and It seems to work pretty well, my biggest thing is I only hunt with a shotgun so I wouldn't be mounting the light to my gun, I dont really know which Light I'd end up getting if I were to get one.
I'm just so torn on buying one that its hard for me to make a commitment.
Ryan.
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7pointer
What head light are you using. I never liked just using head light for scanning and shooting.
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7pointer
What head light are you using. I never liked just using head light for scanning and shooting.
Right now I'm using a night light "the tracker" to say its a hunk of junk may be the understatement of the century. I just cock it a little bit and when we get to a spot give it a quick check make sure everythings lined up correctly and turn the call on. That's really all there is to it for us, if I get a kill lite I still plan do use it like that with the head mount and everything. Just one light to scan and shoot with. Its never failed me yet, but there is always a first time ;)
Ryan.
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7pPinter
Well not much needed the way you hunt. I sure do not have an answer on what light for you to buy either. I hunt entirely different then you it sounds like.
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I'm more up close and personal fast FAST action kind of guy, I like when you turn the call on and they're there within the first 30 seconds. Sadly I just tried to get permission at two places and it didnt work out that way, got shot down. No big deal, I'll just have to find some different spots to try.
I'm going to try to use a rifle once in a while this upcoming season but we'll see how that goes. I've never killed a redfox so that's what I'm trying to target this year.
Ryan.
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7pointer
LoL Now that is funny. We all like fast action predator calling that is why we all do it. That is also why new hunters like gray fox hunting. If you scout your area more for red fox you can make red fox hunting happen pretty fast but your type of shooting might change. The area you hunt has the same number of gray fox as red fox. If you concentrate more scouting for red fox you will have fun with both but your shots might get a little longer. Red fox like to check out your down wind side farther out then gray fox. Gray fox will run right by you at times. Gray fox are not the smartest critters a lot of the time.
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Hunting greys in the woods is a hole different game than hunting wide open spaces.I have used a head light in the past very similar to what your using and found it difficult to get lined up for the shot.I think if your looking for a change you need to seriously look at what YOUR needs are for the type of hunting you do.You don't have to always follow the heard when it comes to hunting gear.There has never been more choices for lights than there is know which is good but can be confusing.Don't be afraid to ask questions some on here has probably already tried it.
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Ryan,
I look forward to seeing you this weekend, you can test the kill-lights for yourself then decide if they will fit your style or not.
Jeremiah
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At about how far can you I.D. an animal at night with the red modul in the kill light 250. Im thinking on getting 1 for on my rifle and I dont realy like using green or yellow when im hunting at night
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Rosko
Depends on your scope and the back ground the fox is in. I would say 100 yards with most scopes and you could see the body and identify as a fox in the right background. With the right back ground and a good scope that distance can be increased sometimes. I have shot fox with this light out to 268 yards in the snow and could see the foxes body clearly enough to shoot the shoulder. So, how far you can you identify a fox clearly for a shot will depend on your ability, scope, back ground and your eye sight. You would have to tell me how far you can identify with it.
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Two nights ago I spoteed eyes at roughly 400 yards with the 250 kill light. I did not know what it was at that distance as it was not moving. At 300 yards I knew it was either a fox or coyote by the usual body language of a predator bouncing my way. At 200 I was not comfortable taking the shot as it was still moving toward me. I always let them come in if they are in the mood Still could not determine if it was a fox or coyote but knew I was a shootable animal. At 100 yards it turned sideways and tried to circle my downwind side. I could easily tell it was a red fox. It stopped for a quick look and I shot it. This was a big grassy field.
My point is. I could identify the animal at roughly 300 yards as a shootable animal however even if I had the shot would not have taken it. It's crucial to identify the animal but it's not neccessary to shoot 200 to 400 yards. Part of the game is getting them closer and it makes for more excitement.
This is in no way a bust on anyone that shoots long distances as that is a skill in its own. The 250 kill light is the way to go but as others stated there are a lot of variables to consider when trying to identify and shoot a critter. Its called the 250 Kill Light because of the distance of illumination. Get yourself one, you won't be sorry.
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well I pretty much desided to get 1 but the wife dosnt know it yet ;D she thinks I need to sell some of my hunting toy though. I say no I just need more ;D I tell her ya always need backup stuff .
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Lookn4fur
If you are going to talk at all about long shots you need to experience it first.
Let's not forgot to mention my part on the excitement on the long shot. I get excited by a long shot just like you on a close shot. To some, the ability to call them in at all or for a close shot is excitement enough. So to make the statement and to lead hunters that to call them in close is the skill and the reason that makes predator hunting so exciting is not true in all cases. I know quite a few hunters that are proud of there long shots on fox. I have killed a truck load of predators in close. I also enjoy the sport of long range shooting. The long shots just adds a new level of skill to keep me interested in fox hunting. The close shots just do not excite me as much as the easy chip shots do. If I was only intested in killing as many as I could I might think differently. I just love to see them fall over far. It just seams to keep me interested any more.
Rosko
If you are serious about predator hunting you might want to sell stuff. LOL
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Buckwheat
I am serious about predator hunting but until I know the new stuff works as good or better then the stuff I have I like to hang onto it.
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Ernie, I think you mis-understood me. I agreed with you that long distance shooting is a skill and can be exciting, just not necessary to kill predators. Whatever trips your trigger to pull the trigger is up to you. Just as long as you are identifying the target and shooting safely. Most guys can not consistantly shoot over 100 yards (me including) without the aid of sticks or tri-pods. I don't think it's ethical to take chances and wound animals at those distances. Can be very exciting for sure. When I do get a tri-pod, I will stretch out some shots as long as I am positive on the ID.
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just ordered the predator pack from boondock outdoors it looks like a sold setup
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Lookn4fur
Ethical to me is not shooting at eyes, but to pick a spot on the body unless you have your act together. What part do you think 90 % shoot at. Eyes, Why do you think that is? To shoot at eyes people are shooting a an 1 1/2 circle. They better have a good rest and gun, because I see hunters that can not hit that at 100 yards off a bench.
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I don't know how else to say I agree with you.
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Rosko,
You will not be disappointed with the Kill Light(s). I have been running the 100 model as a scanning light/shotgun light and the 250 model for rifle shots. Close or far the light performs. If one is out there and you can't make a positive identification then you will know the lights capabilities for that given situation. Snow, full moon, new moon, light polution and so on will affect the lights ability to identify targets at given distances as with any other light for that matter. Good luck and safe hunting to you.
Kirk McKendree
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Kirk....what made you decide to attach a 250 to your rifle instead of the 100 model?
Mike
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Lookn4fur
Ethical to me is not shooting at eyes, but to pick a spot on the body unless you have your act together. What part do you think 90 % shoot at. Eyes, Why do you think that is? To shoot at eyes people are shooting a an 1 1/2 circle. They better have a good rest and gun, because I see hunters that can not hit that at 100 yards off a bench.
you shot 268 yards with a re dlite you must hav yung eyes shooting far at nite is unethcal
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you shot 268 yards with a re dlite you must hav yung eyes shooting far at nite is unethcal
Claybird, some of us identify our targets by eyes at up to 200 yards. Unethical is not the word for this, it is more experience in calling with actual predators coming into the call. A lot of times when we see eyes in our scanning peripheral vision, we can identify a target by those eyes versus a non target. I salute Buckwheat for his long shots and good rest, and Lookn4fur, for his wanting to get predators in close. They both have their thing, one of them is for long shots, and one of them is for close up action, its a choice of a predator hunter's scenario and comfort zone. Some guys shoot a rimfire rifle, some guys shoot a shotgun, and some guys shoot a centerfire of differnet calibers, its all in what you are comfortable with, and I still haven't seen any pictures of any kills from Claybird...............Cell phones with cameras are the norm anymore, so to send a text/pic message to a PPHA official to post for you should not be any kind of a problem.
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hahaha wat is the word for it?iresposible or reckles?gredy or ilegal?mabe you can do a book on eye targets. hahaha kid i dont take pitures heres my text for you hahahahahahaha
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Fellas, if your going to have a debate, please use spell check so we can understand what it is you are debating.
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Sorry Tim, no more debate
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I sense that we have a troll among us.
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Lions, and tigers and trolls O-NO! :-)
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I sense that we have a troll among us.
"Troll" ~Also known as "forum fairies". ;D
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That typing looks familar ;)
And whats funny is Tim telling people to check their spelling ;D
Anyway to get back on topic. If you can identify at long range, great. If you like them in close, great.
The important part is youre out having fun and being safe.
Good luck to all this season
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Kill Light 250. 100% worth the money.
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did you spellchek?
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did you spellchek?
::)