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Title: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on May 13, 2010, 08:29:12 PM
Would be nice if people would start to share some of thier knowledge on here.  I  had to go to another web site to find out some reloading things out... We need to have PPHA members  come here and ask here and find out here....
At alot of views being done but we need more comments and or replies to many of the needed how to questions.
Remember we are predator callers...We need to make sure this stuff is passed on...So many poor souls will take this stuff to their grave with them...
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: predator77 on May 13, 2010, 11:25:02 PM
 I have nothing to share UB. I got told of by a member that said that I didn't have the right to give advice because he didn't think I was a good enough hunter. So, ever since BW told me that, I haven't gave no advice or stories. Sorry.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Hern on May 14, 2010, 06:38:49 AM
I know nothing about reloading.
But if you have any questions on Predator Call'n let me know. I'll be glad to share to PPHA members.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Lookn4Fur on May 14, 2010, 08:19:55 AM
P77 you can give me advice anyday.  I wish I had a nickel everytime I heard that about myself.  I am a firm believer that we can learn from everyone.  Those that think not in my opinion have closed minds and think they are better than everyone else.

UB, I don't re-load either.  It is possible that we have nothing to offer you on that subject.  I hear what you are saying though.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: foxpro51 on May 14, 2010, 11:11:36 AM
What do you want to know about rifles, scopes, balllictics etc. I was a military small arms weapons specialist.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: foxpro51 on May 14, 2010, 11:14:41 AM
For ballistics on your caliber rifle go to JBM Ballictics.com on the net.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: furbug on May 14, 2010, 12:29:10 PM
I have nothing to share UB. I got told of by a member that said that I didn't have the right to give advice because he didn't think I was a good enough hunter. So, ever since BW told me that, I haven't gave no advice or stories. Sorry.

Ask him to hunt here. In the west where ground hog hunters shoot every fox they see.
Don't let one mans opinion, change your beliefs. I have learned very much here. I have not missed with a shotgun since the story where UB, said to aim low. I did miss one last week at 70 yards,with a small caliber rifle.
I seen I clearly missed. It ran off leaving a short mellow howl for a long distance. I'm thinking it was trying to get back with its mate.
As far as load data, if someone gives a wrong load there could be serious consequences.
But all other information, will keep this board alive.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: scott on May 14, 2010, 06:33:31 PM
i know nothing about reloading, rockfish doesn't visit here anymore that guy knows his stuff. 



Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: swarter2 on May 15, 2010, 09:55:24 AM
I don't reload either but I would like to learn as ammo is not getting any cheaper.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on May 15, 2010, 07:28:03 PM
Ah reloading......Good outdoor thing to do with your kids...Did this with both my daughter and son...Was so nice to have my son kill a buck at 16 years old with a reload he did.
Daughter can go into any hunting store and buy me reloading stuff...She does not hunt but she understands all the aspects of reloading...Nice to get a Fathers Day or Christmas Gift from her and it 17 Rem brass,  CCI small Rifle Primers,,, Red Dot Powder, IMR 4350 powder. She is now 37 years old....
I kind of used the Reloading info as an example....What I was really trying to do was to suggest to members if they are going to learn anything about predator hunting learn it here...Don't go to other sites and post things there and just come here to read.  Many times I will see people with the same log in names on other hunting sites and predator hunting sites...They are posting away about this and that about hunting and predator calling...Then they visit here and all you see is there name at the bottom of the screen just visiting this forums... 
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Hern on May 16, 2010, 05:47:25 AM
UB demands-
Don't go to other sites and post things there and just come here to read
I can't believe you said that! Wow!
You hit'n the booze? Get outside and clear your mind.
Uncle Hitler, How can you make this statement?
For the love of God, You can't tell me what to read and what to write.
Thanks for the laugh....
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: bdawg on May 16, 2010, 12:48:20 PM
i think what ub was trying to say was the same people post on other sites but only read here , i believe he was encourageing them to post here also to share their knowledge with people who dont visit the other sites.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Leglifter on May 16, 2010, 12:53:23 PM
Yeah
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Hern on May 16, 2010, 07:46:15 PM
bdawg, Some places you drive by, some places you stop and visit.


Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: scott on May 16, 2010, 08:12:34 PM
bdawg, Some places you drive by, some places you stop and visit.




wow
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: bdawg on May 16, 2010, 08:57:55 PM
bdawg, Some places you drive by, some places you stop and visit.



hern , what are you tryin to say??
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on May 16, 2010, 09:14:49 PM
bdawg, Some places you drive by, some places you stop and visit.

Gee Hern!!!!!You Sound Like Hern Hitler!!    Thanks for the laugh...



Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on May 16, 2010, 09:24:18 PM
Here are the top ten topics on this forumn  by replies:
District 6 hunters FREE DRINKS.  195
STATE WIDE DISTRICT VS. DISTRICT HUNT  163
To PPHA Officers....  133
PPHA State Wide fun Predator hunt.  110
2009 Expo  103
D6 hog hunt password  94
Member page.  90
1st annual District #5 Predator Hunt  89
DISTRICT 3 HUNT  86
On the board!



OK how many of these will inform a new predator hunter how to call in a coyote.. What gun to use, what light to use, etc etc etc?
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: foxpro51 on May 16, 2010, 09:26:25 PM
Free drinks will improve conversation and lots of bull stories. LOL
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on May 16, 2010, 09:27:53 PM


Here are the top ten post on this forum by views:  But none are any of the top 10 by replies

Coyote Rifles?  5445
PPHA State Wide fun Predator hunt.  4200
Gun Mounted Lights  3556
Longhairs HOG BLOG or...THE KING AND I  3416
HB881 Success!!!!  3303
Gun Mounted Lites  2964
Antler Restrictions  2640
On the board!  2625
District 5 Chuck Hunt Anyone???  2593
1st annual District #5 Predator Hunt
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on May 16, 2010, 09:30:54 PM
I am just saying that the seasoned predator callers need to pass on info also on here too.. use this as a tool just like an expo seminar would be..

Maybe by passing on some info you might think that I will kill your fox in another part of the state with that info..
However some 12 year old kid might get their 1st fox with the info you provided on here... enough said....
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on May 16, 2010, 09:33:30 PM
Free drinks will improve conversation and lots of bull stories. LOL

LOL LOL thats funny...What if your not a BS.  I would just end up drunk... LOL LOL
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: predator77 on May 17, 2010, 10:15:40 AM
I love to read UB's stories and head scratching questions. Makes me think about hunting from a different view. I hardly go on other forum boards but I have seen members and officers posting more info on other boards than I have ever see over here. The reason I think is these boards got out of control the last year trying to keep drama down and spirits up is unfair for our moderator. Certain people have their own opinions and won't respect anyone elses so they take their experiences else where. I'm back to square one. Last year was the worst year to date for me as far as sightings so I'm just sitting back and learning. Keep the boards alive UB! :)
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: bigben on May 17, 2010, 11:24:28 AM
I just do not have the time anymore it seems.  I do not even post over on Hpa in the predator section mainly because of hounders holier then thou attitude.  I haven't posted much on the boards in the way of help since a few years ago.  getting attacked from self proclaimed experts that don't want new callers in the game.  I have taken many out hunting though when asked.  It gets old when you give advice and then have to prove yourself to other posters that have nothing to their credit but their word also.  if someone sends me a pm and asks questions I always take time to awenser them as well.  here for the last year it just wasn't worth posting something on here.  other sites didn't deal with the issues we had.  they got rid of the issues.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Hern on May 19, 2010, 06:19:52 AM
hern , what are you tryin to say??
I am saying some folks feel comfortable visiting certain places...web sites, churches, stores, bar rooms and such.
Then again the same folks, for other reasons, don't spent the time at every web sites, church, store or bar room.


In any event, Uncle Buck has something else on his mind. He didn't come clean with his orginal post and talked in riddles and I think he still has a beef. A beef with someone so he wants support on this page.
Uncle Buck, can you say what you want to say? Or name this guy or guys that don't ever offer information on thishere site? Or are we going to continue to beat around the bush?
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: furbug on May 19, 2010, 10:25:42 AM


 I agree both ways. But Uncle Buck has a point, HPA has a far more active predator board. 1 because it is all outdoor sports. 2 yes PPHA members post there alot.
 Which they have every right. It wouldn't hurt for members to stop in every few days and make a post. Some of the officers and higher ups in this association, have predator hunting number 3 and 4 of other hobbies.
 You don't see predatormasters board going dead in the off season.
 This association could be having groundhog hunts etc. Throw a small prize out there and you will have participants. Its the prize that brings out the competitiveness.
 The prize brings in members which pays for the prize, keep having good hunts you have members who rejoin every year. Those funds pay for hunt prizes, as this association, has little operating overhead.
 Look at the only good hunt this club has held. It got hunters involved. It got more members to sign up then both expos, and the worlds. How many members from the expos are active on this board? No other boards are dying like this board does. Why is it? It happens every year no fishing contests, nothing. Like I said being king for a year does not bring in hunters. So to end it, there simply will be little knowledge
posted on this board because this association does not get bigger. It gains 20 members a year and looses 20. And the officers should take a look why we are loosing good hunters who could post here. Hunting tips from a hunter 300 miles across the state isn't going to hurt that hunter. Especially when, there are little to no competitive contests. I don't think a hunter can learn enough about a fox, or a PA. coyote.
JMO
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: furbug on May 19, 2010, 11:59:34 AM
For the small hunts, give the winners a nice call set. Bought from one of the members. Many donate to the PPHA, help them out. A custom knife if member makes them, etc. Just something to get them off the couch. It is not right that a prize should be needed, but todays hunters are different. Thats my knowledge.
Also maybe a pay it foreward like predatormasters has. Many here have bartering items, im certain. People will check and post then. A good hunting story, makes a hunter want to get out there.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on May 19, 2010, 05:38:32 PM
I have been told by many people that I am a person that will make them think of things that they are not thinking about.

As far as my web site that is history...It served it purpose..All good things do have to come to an end.  Hopefully the people who did visit there have been become predator hunters or better outdoor persons.  Also hope some friendship that now prevail because of it being there at one time..Continue until all good things come to an end...

As far as some of the other web sites... I decided that why pass on things there about predator calling when not all but quite a few are hostile and quite belligerent.. Why I would never even hunt with people like this why would I want to pass on valuable info to some people who are just not nice people..It's as simple as this:  If people are not nice to you just stay away from them...Thats just good Mental Health..

Since the PPHA is the sole predator hunting association in Pa..."Pennsylvania Predator Hunter Association" then we do owe something to our members who do visit here to learn something. 
Kind of like "Being True To Your School".... This is Pa, the PPHA will fight for you and have in past so you do not lose your privileges so we need to support them.  One way is by posting valuable info so other people join the organization..
Posting info on Texas, New Mexico, web sites sure is not going to help some 12 year old kid in Beaver County, Pa...
So yes as it stands now I am using the PPHA forum to pass on valuable predator calling info to it's members.
I saw what would have happened to predator hunting as we now had not the PPHA members went forward and defended our PRIVLIDGE to hunt predators the correct way,. "You All Almost Had To Wear Orange  To Hunt Predators. Did you know the some of the old time members on here met with the head of PA Game Commission Law Enforcement and in a Diner in Denver, Pa won your right to not have to wear orange...

Right now I am 61 years old...Still in shape and can climb the mountains...I do have time down the road, God willing to become a full fledged Arm Chair Predator Caller instead of doing it now.  Thanks to  situations (blessing in disguise) my site being taken down I have been enjoying the outdoors more and more..

However since the PPHA has given us so much improvements and protected  many a thing we almost lost I feel I owe it to the PPHA to hang around a bit and post here...
Next time your out daytime predator hunting look down at your boots, pants, shirt and think of them as being orange...When you see that they are still camo come back and put a productive post on this site...
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Hern on May 20, 2010, 05:17:12 AM
One way to show support is to be active on PPHA message board.
Other ways to show support....
Run for state or district office
Be a committee chairperson at the PPHA Expo
Plan and host a PPHA hunt
Attend a PPHA hunt
Help at the Expo
Attend the Expo (least you can do)
Help do a 'speaker slot' at Expo
Help at PPHA booth at sport show
Talk with lawmakers to change a few predator laws
Give demo at state picnic and/or PPHA hunt

Lots of ways to support this organization...
Let's hear more...

Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: bigben on May 20, 2010, 10:33:47 AM
Hmm done all of those but three of em.  You can also add just showing to checkins or events.  Doesnt have to be the expo.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Lookn4Fur on May 20, 2010, 04:56:47 PM
FURBUG, there have always been groundhog hunts, fishing excursions, picnics, crow hunts, predator hunts and other events held by the PPHA and its members.  I for one am trying to put together a camping/four wheeler weekend as we speak.  District two is having a fishing/picnic/camping weekend coming up.  The organization has offered more prizes and guns last fall and this year than ever in the history of the association and you still can't get people to participate.  I am probably going to have to cancel my event because not one person could contact me as requested to say they would attend.  I had two people decline.  How about you stepping up and helping out at the expo.  We need help getting vendors and donations as well as a few other areas and certainly would appreciate your expertise.  We need more indians, already have enough chiefs.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Hern on May 21, 2010, 05:49:50 AM
Ben, I did all but one on the list...LOL...but who gives a crap?
We need to beef up thishere message board...LOL... and sit on our butts and provide information.
See you message board guru's at the Expo.
This is a request for Expo help. Contact your district officer or state officers.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: furbug on May 21, 2010, 10:05:49 AM
FURBUG, there have always been groundhog hunts, fishing excursions, picnics, crow hunts, predator hunts and other events held by the PPHA and its members.  I for one am trying to put together a camping/four wheeler weekend as we speak. district two is having a fishing/picnic/camping weekend coming up.  The organization has offered more prizes and guns last fall and this year than ever in the history of the association and you still can't get people to participate.  I am probably going to have to cancel my event because not one person could contact me as requested to say they would attend.  I had two people decline.  How about you stepping up and helping out at the expo.  We need help getting vendors and donations as well as a few other areas and certainly would appreciate your expertise.  We need more indians, already have enough chiefs.


The chiefs do not believe in change it is why the indians run off. Same way of operation year after year. District reps. could be enrolling more members if they had a schedule of this years hunts, etc. Which nobody ever knows the date till about 2 weeks before etc. They could be at gun shows, county fairs etc. Give them there decals, ask predatorxtreme for some spare copies so the rep can give them to hunters who join on the spot. The club offers nothing to a new hunter signing up on the spot. Except for the same speech, we got predator hunters this or that. Most don't care about the past they look at the future. Sorta what the PPHA should be doing. There is no reason event dates should not be written in stone, the first of every year. A district rep. has little to offer when it comes to enrolling new indians. Since this is the suggestion topic, and you ask for some expertise i thought i would try to help. And as a side note, your not going to get much help with events that are 5 hour drives for members 90%
of the time. The districts are to large they need to be smaller so the members can be closer and be a tighter knit group.
You want indians, think change. What is working to enroll members, what isn't.
Also reps. have to run events through a process slower than Harrisburg, and the club check book is stored behind two vault doors, gaining money, but growing mold, as it is opened very little to spend any.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Leglifter on May 21, 2010, 11:24:50 AM
Hey! maybe we should split the association in two, maybe an east and west branch.
maybe north and south too
Maybe instead of 6 districts, we could have 12 or even 24.
2 pres
2 vp
2sec
2treasurers
12 district reps
even separate expos
separate accounts

Furbug, you're in the southwest, you want to start a branch?
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Leglifter on May 21, 2010, 11:26:18 AM
Mods, feel free to delete my post as it is off topic in the "sharing your knowledge" thread
Sorry for the extra work
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: furbug on May 21, 2010, 12:04:53 PM
Hey! maybe we should split the association in two, maybe an east and west branch.
maybe north and south too
Maybe instead of 6 districts, we could have 12 or even 24.
2 pres
2 vp
2sec
2treasurers
12 district reps
even separate expos
separate accounts

Furbug, you're in the southwest, you want to start a branch?

I can say not at the moment Bob, I have been busy tutoring all the indians you signed up last year. Can you give me a answer how many that was? Your not bashfull, and your honest from what i know. Would having some ammo to enroll more fur hunters at events, make you want to go out and enroll hunters at places in your area just a little more?
This is on topic, more active members will mean more posting on this board.
The posts have picked up in the last week, the prior 3 weeks no board was needed, and the club could have went under as far as what new members may have thought.
How many districts does the PTA have?
There small tight knit and don't even need a website. Because decisions can be made at a local level not at just a state level.
And how long does it take to get answers on a PTA event, in a district,there Association is ran properly.
Some of these answers may help the PPHA, change what is needed. But is change wanted? Is the question, last year was not a good year more member were lost than gained, and this year is being a duplicate so far. Yes there are workers in this association, but there needs to be some changes to make hunters get involved in events. They stay involved they stay members. Most the west has no clue what is even going on with the expo, or any club matters and its been that way since the beginning. Show me proof it hasn't please. Not saying this rudely just using it to prove a point.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Leglifter on May 21, 2010, 02:09:38 PM
[
 your honest from what i know.

I can answer most of the questions you may have.

Pm me your  name, to show a little faith
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: bigben on May 21, 2010, 02:56:01 PM
this should be good.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: furbug on May 21, 2010, 04:44:33 PM
I had faith you would answer honestly,  I even said so.  Typical of this club, some officer, 2 in this case, can't resist the urge to look down their noses at the members and offer up yet another smartazz comment.  I can't imagine why the PPHA can't retain members, and why the members don't step up to help.  I'll refrain from PMing you my name as the faith I lost in you has nothing to do with answering a question.  When are elections??

By the way I do not know why you need my name to answer some simple questions but I decided to PM it to you.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Lookn4Fur on May 21, 2010, 04:53:01 PM
FURBUG, you are slightly disoriented if you think I was being a smart azz.  I was just asking for your help and assistance with the expo.  As far as the Indian/Chief comment, im sticking to it. 
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Leglifter on May 21, 2010, 05:00:23 PM
I think you know why I asked for your real name.
I'll be honest, but will you be honest with me?
I don't think I "look down my nose" to anyone.
I just don't want to be playing games again.
Surely you know that, if you are a banned forum member, and you did pm your real name, confirming, who a few of us think you are,
I, being honest, would have to see you removed from the forum, again.

No hard feelings
I hoped to work with you at this side of the state.

I can answer your questions if you'd be honest.

Maybe we'll talk at the convention in washington county
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Leglifter on May 21, 2010, 05:02:05 PM
By the way, I was NOT pm'd his real name
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: furbug on May 21, 2010, 05:08:57 PM
FURBUG, you are slightly disoriented if you think I was being a smart azz.  I was just asking for your help and assistance with the expo.  As far as the Indian/Chief comment, im sticking to it.  

No its all good. I didn't take it wrong at all.
Just trying to explain how it feels over here. Some members were not even asked to sell gun tickets, matter of a fact they did not even know the club had them. Till we were all fishing the other night and i asked them about them. L4F just asking these guys some simple questions. But to go out and get members what I suggested sure would help. All the coyote contests have there date way before the hunt. No reason this club can not do the same.
And these boards would not be dead if hunters were not pushed from them.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: Leglifter on May 21, 2010, 05:15:32 PM
Your right,
We should have a standing calender of events.
If you were a member, you would have been notified of the raffle tickets
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: bigben on May 21, 2010, 08:28:39 PM
Ok i will bite.  I dont like to kick sleeping dogs.  But you post exactly like trophies only.  Even go as far to bring up the exact wording that he used to use.  Now if you are not him and your telling the gods honest truth then please except my appology.  But if you are a member there are other portions of this website that can be made available to you.  But we need to know you are a dues paying member before changing your permissions.
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: beastman on June 04, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
Not to interrupt a good scuffle.  But I was wondering why does it have to be a post UB? why not something more like a informational pamplet ,if education is one of your goals or just throwing stuff out to see if it sticks why not short educational films.  I've saw the links to photobucket,

One of the reasons I'm a lurker and not a poster is I'm a recreational hunter not the hardcore type.  I hunt when I feel like it and I stay home when I feel like it and whether or not I kill anything isn't all that important.  I suspect there's a lot of people like me that don't feel qualified to advise anybody and this is one sport where there seems to be dozens of ways to go about it.  One other thing coyote/red fox hunting in pa is brutal as everyone here already knows and no doubt people get excited at first but when they find out how tough it is they quit so I gotta believe some turnover is to be expected.

One other thing if someone could help me out with this, I saw in predator extreme I think it was where the author had a sign he put in his vehicle window with info about him and it had somekind of a club logo on it.  I bring this up because I had an incident with a state trooper back in january who stopped by my truck to see what I was doing.  He didn't harass me really but when I came out of the woods out in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night and I could see a vehicle parked behind me and then someone called out to me by name in a voice I didn't recognize, to be honest it scared me a little bit.  Maybe if I had something like that, that I could print out and use, it might not only save some misunderstandings but be PR for the club.  Just a thought.

Okay now you can continue,,, lol
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: scott on June 04, 2010, 08:30:38 PM
when i went hunting with UB he had a magnet sticker with predator hunter on it  and his contact information that he stuck right on the car, I keep meaning to order one but keep forgetting.  I got a new truck this year and have contacted a few of the farms to let them know i have a new vehicle. just hoping i don't forget any. 
Title: Re: Sharing your knowledge
Post by: uncle buck on June 05, 2010, 03:19:55 PM
The vanhas a metal finish so the magnetic attachment works great.. However the Foxmobile, AKA Saturn 2 is not metallic so the magnetic sign will not stick on there... However I prefer the Foxmobile since every landowner that allows me to hunt knows when they see the Foxmobile that it's someone hunting there that has permission...However the sign does work...Also when using the magnetic sign, the police will just stop and drive way...Since they know It's me....

However one negative thing...If you have your home phone number on the magnetic sign...PETA will call you every night...Nice to be loved..  Actually I kind of enjoyed all the attention they were giving me..However after daily night time calls I  discontinued service of my regular phone..
Wow...Now I am saving money all kind of money thanks to that there sign having my phone number on it...