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Predator Hunting => Predator Hunting => Topic started by: Tom Stohler on February 23, 2016, 08:52:17 PM
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Does everyone change your calling tactics and if you do what's the change
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Good thread Tom! Was wondering this the other day since I'm new to the sport. Does bug spray effect coyotes? If so what do people use for tick and nat defense cause nothing can be more annoying than pesky mosquitoes
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I use fawn distress most of the time right after there born, then in late summer fawn distress mixed with some coyote pup whimpers and crys or pup distress
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I will get a call or three each summer to remove nuisance Coyotes.
I want to work close to the den or within ear shot of den.
I look for farm lanes, mowed hay field, or anything that's not overgrown to setup and watch this area. I prefer the sun in my face or to my side, but setup in the shadows.
Weeds, brush and trees are in full growth, so setting up to see what is approaching can be a challenge.
I pre-scout these nuisance areas and make a plan, A, B & C. Planning out your hunt is a must to be successful to remove one livestock killer or a family of two or three adults and several pups.
This is the hardest hunting I do. By that, am not after fur and calling many spots in many areas today, but focusing on removing one animal or a group living at one spot. Pressure is on, property owner wants results and so on. This will test your metal.
If you just want to hunt Coyote and not after a livestock killer, you can use the above info to fit your needs.
Do some scouting. If you find Pa. Coyote during the summer months, they will stay in the area, likely a den nearby. They are not on the move, in fact studies have shown Coyote move very little during hot summer months. In my area, they live most of the time in standing Corn fields.
Scouting and hunting added gear; long sleeve shirt and long pants, a pair of pruning shears, bug spray, flea collar around each ankle of boot (not on bare skin). Store flea collars in empty P-butter jar between uses. Pruning shears are always with me on any hunt, all year long.
What was the question?...
Oh yea, calling
I pretty much stay with the same sounds all year long. They are Coyote sounds.
I do enjoy a good mouth battle with a homebody Coyote. I've done that several times at den sites.
Makes the hair on my neck stand up, but I bark back at 'em... Sounds like a junk yard dog and you know you got him fired up. Rarely use the challenge barks. But at den sites, this sound is made to order. Not to mention fun and hair raising having a mad Coyote barking and warning you to stay back. All the while he's pacing around and doing a few kickbacks.
If you hunt summer time Coyote, just stick with the same sounds that's worked for you during fur season.
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The only thing that my experience allows me to comment on is the bug issue. I spray my clothes routinely with Permethrin. I haven't gotten anything yet so I assume that it works.
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Agree 100% with permetherin! I had tick problems in archery season. I treated my clothes with permetherin and never had any problems afterwards. Those things creep me out!!! I was very ill from Lyme disease four years ago. It's not something I would ever want to experience again. Permetherin works! :)
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Thanks Bo1 and fox hound I will use that. I know 2 people that contracted Lyme disease not pretty at ALL! I wouldn't wish that on anyone!
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Permethrin worked for me last fall, first time I used it no ticks. You know I will be using it come spring Turkey season.
Still going to carry a bottle of Deet just in case the skeeters act up on the bare skin.
Dangit now should be a bounty on skeeters and ticks not coyotes!!!
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What is this Permethrin? Where do I purchase it?
Is this the products actual name or is it an ingredient to look for?
Help me out. Thanks.
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Hern it's an ingredient to look for. They sell it in spray bottles at various stores by the name Sawyers....I buy the concentrate at Tractor Supply and mix my own...me being cheap and all.. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) You will need to read a few labels but it will be in the bug killer section at TS. Good stuff, I use it on my wood cutting clothes and it works great. Lasts about 6 weeks even with washing...
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+1 on the Sawyers. Good stuff
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Let's see if this works
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post this on here before, be careful with this stuff it is wicked.. it is made to spray on your outer layer of clothing and let dry.. I would not pray that stuff on wet and let it dry on me.. also I would not and do not use it on my hat.. also you can get it at the drug store in a form of lice killer that you spray on the bed, it is in a white can with a blue lid.. stuff lasts a full month on clothes..
when I first starting using it I was rabbit hunting, I stopped because the beagle got on a rabbit, I looked at my brush pants and had a tick on my thigh area, he walked around a little bit started to do circles and died, couldn't believe how quick it killed him..
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Scott, in deciding to try Sawyers for the first time, I'd read a review on Amazon that described the same exact thing with the tick. Right then and there is when I decided to purchase it.
Scott's right, and it will also say it in the directions for use, do not spray on your skin. Nor do you want to put clothing on that still is wet from you spraying it. I treat my clothes as well as the kids hunting clothes in it. I do spray my hat though.
Goose, thanks for the picture. I need to go buy that concentrate as I too am cheap. I've been buying Sawyers for too long. Now I know what it looks like. I'm sure that the mixture instructions are on it but just in case they're not, what's the ratio of the mixture?
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;) ;) ;) I use this stuff on all my hunting clothes, hang on clothes line, spray and let dry, as ticks are active down to 28°...so all of archery and most of rifle season for deer....they be active :o :o :o :o This stuff is odorless also...Yea the mixture is on the bottle but I think it's 6:1...don't hold me to that as the bottle isn't here in my hand now... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thank you Goose & Brushwolf.
I have Sawyers and the word 'Permethrin' I forgot about.
Am at Tractor Supply about every week or so, I'll pick up concentrate.
Thanks again.
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;) ;) ;) ;) I must give credit to Uncle Buck for starting me on this stuff several years back...that's when we were both of the working class.. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
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Be sure not to treat your clothes anywhere near your household pets. Until it is completely dried it can cause disruptions to their nervous system. That's how it works on ticks. Attacks their nervous system.
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;D ;D ;D ;D Is that why I'm so loonie?? :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Nah.... The loonie is just part of your charm... ;) ;) ;)
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Hern, Jaspr1, and Buckcheat...pay attention here...I have charm!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Yard Fountain do have a mystic charm to them. Of course your fountain is filled with permethrin. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Must you wear a under layer of clothing?? To protect yourself. And if your in the rain is that safe
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No under layers needed. Perfectly safe once dried. I don't think the rain is a concern either. The manufacturers directions say that it will still be effective even after being washed and dried. So I assume it won't be rinsed out by rain water and absorbed into your skin.
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I had Lyme a few years back and that crap is no fun. Here is what I use and it works! Use exactly as others are saying. Spray on clothes the day before and let dry. Good for several days. We use it heavy during snake season.
http://www.amazon.com/Sawyer-Products-Permethrin-Clothing-Repellent/dp/B001ANQVYU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1456426473&sr=8-2-spons&keywords=sawyer+insect+repellent+spray&psc=1
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That's exactly what I use. I was buying like 3 or 4 bottles at a time and would last the entire season. Look through the reviews. There's an archery hunter in there from PA who describes a hunting episode with his brother. That was the selling point for me.
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My son-in-law got Lyme Disease about 2 years ago.. He is still hurting from it.. He doesn't even venture out into the outdoor to hunt.. Figure he got it taking his son to a community park and just sat at a picnic table.. After you get a few ticks cut out of your stomach you learn fast to use something...I always grab a few cans of anti tick spray in the Wally World camping department... Gold and Blue Can.. I do own the stuff from the tractor supply too and am going to start to mix my own.. If you get the yellow black spray bottle from Wally World save it should you mix your own in. I have a friend in OK that ties those cattle tags on to each of his boot shoe laces.. They to can be had in Tractor Supply...The ones that are treated for ticks for cattle are orange in color.. I started placing them around where we sit in the back yard to keep ticks away.. A natural draw for ticks is the Barberry pushes people have in their yards.. They are a push with thorns on them and a purple red leaf.. If you have them you might want to talk your wife in allowing you to pull them out of your yards..
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>:( >:( Big deal I have some "Charmin" also ::) ::) K-Mart has it on sale often :o :o and are you sure your a "Goose" ??? ??? You might be a "Loon" :-\ :-\..............gotta check my "Bird" book.......... :o............ 8)