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Predator Hunting => Predator Hunting => Topic started by: TheBig1 on January 26, 2016, 03:25:37 PM
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So I'm taking the kids up to the mountains this Saturday to just get away and do some riding around and some picture taking. While doing so I was going to take my Wildfire with me.
I have the siren sounds on the Wildfire. I've heard that these sounds will make them howl and give away their positions. This may sound silly, but how do you do it? Do you actually set up to do it or do you just stop along side of the road and turn it on?
I would guess that you put it on 3/4 to full volume also. How do you hear them if the siren is going?
Thanks in advance, I'd just like to have some fun when I'm out and get the kids excited also.
Chad
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run it for 10-15 second's and shut it off... if they're in the area you'll hear them...
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Thanks Dale, appreciate it.
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I like to locate with someone with me.
One person is dropped off at good listening spot, the other drives 1/4-1/2 mile and runs the siren or vice versa.
Just a wider area to listen/hear and pinpoint.
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I like that idea Hern, thanks.
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:) I bought one of those bullhorn/siren combo's back in 2006, when I joined PPHA. It's gathering dust along with a bunch of gadgets and widgets I thought were good ideas at the time. I have only once heard a coyote in my area howl to a siren. I was sitting in a location sandwiched between 2 country developments, when I heard an emergency vehicle going down a state road siren blaring. My ears went up, I heard several dogs in the area open up but no coyote. Then the fridge light in my head went on ( only took 9yrs) and I found a female coyote howl on my Wildfire and played it 1 time full volume, along with the dogs. Whoa! I got an immediate coyote response right down the hollow I was in about a 1/4 mile and a few extra dogs...and no I didn't get that coyote >:( >:( ..but I made him,her,or it play the game so that counts in my book...I don't care what Hern's rules are....lol..if you want that bullhorn thing PM me your address and I will send it to you "Free"...if it doesn't work for you on coyotes,you can call the kids with it or the wife...a word of caution I tried the wife thing, that's why it's gathering dust. 8)
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Same here. I have the ELK siren that looks like a bull horn I will sell you. Maybe you could get a discount if you buy the JMan's and mine. Lol
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:) I bought one of those bullhorn/siren combo's back in 2006, when I joined PPHA. It's gathering dust along with a bunch of gadgets and widgets I thought were good ideas at the time. I have only once heard a coyote in my area howl to a siren. I was sitting in a location sandwiched between 2 country developments, when I heard an emergency vehicle going down a state road siren blaring. My ears went up, I heard several dogs in the area open up but no coyote. Then the fridge light in my head went on ( only took 9yrs) and I found a female coyote howl on my Wildfire and played it 1 time full volume, along with the dogs. Whoa! I got an immediate coyote response right down the hollow I was in about a 1/4 mile and a few extra dogs...and no I didn't get that coyote >:( >:( ..but I made him,her,or it play the game so that counts in my book...I don't care what Hern's rules are....lol..if you want that bullhorn thing PM me your address and I will send it to you "Free"...if it doesn't work for you on coyotes,you can call the kids with it or the wife...a word of caution I tried the wife thing, that's why it's gathering dust. 8)
LOL Thanks Jaspr and Fur, I appreciate it. Jaspr, I think that I'll take you up on your offer. Can't have too many useless toys laying around. :D
I'll still give it a try this weekend and let you know how my results are. Jaspr, PM sent.
Chad
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;D Chad ;D As you can see "Lookn2Balwayshopeless" missed the "FREE" part.....I think L$F may need a direct fiber optic line through the ear canal into the cavity between his ears ::) so he can get a little light to see where he's going :o :o :o :o.............. 8)
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LOL Well I really don't know anyone as of yet to start busting balls but I can see your point.
Chad
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Thanks Chad! ;) ;) ;) You must be an old coot also? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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No I am not, I'm only 39 so I would assume that to some of you gentlemen I'm just a kid. :D
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Just curious..... At what point does one "officially" become an old coot? :o :o :o I was wondering when I will reach old cootness!!! ::) ::) ::)
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I started my curmudgeon training at the tender age of 50... by the time I hit 60 I was in the groove and ready for all the young whipper snappers... consult with anyone who knows me and they will confirm what I say...
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Whats a " curmudgeon " ?????
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Curmudgeon has two definitions.
First the liberal example Cleveland Amory was a tv guide critic and CEO of the NYC based Fund 4 Animals
No salary, but a $200,000 annual expense account. A poor example for sure. An anti.
Real ones are found only on this website. All are retired and dues paying members deserving respect, even the weather forecasters. As you can see we also can hijack different threads on here at our discretion
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Well Big1, I would say you are not an old coot but a young whipper snapper you are not. ;D ;D ;D
Old Cootness is in the eye of the beholder. For me it is anyone older than me! ::) ::) ::). My kids, ages 20 and 18 consider me an Old Coot. If the term "OLD Coot" bothers you than you are one. :o :o :o
For the record, there is nothing wrong with being labeled an Old Coot. It just means you can talk about Hunting, Fishing, Trucks, The Boss Lady(CEO), Cutting Wood, The Weather, Trapping, Reloading, Keeping Your Truck Clean, Eating, Keeping Warm, Eating Some More, Going Out To Breakfast, Buying and Selling guns on a regular basis without ever shooting them and did I mention having a tea party with the CEO and her friends.
Now that I think of it, no wonder the Old Coots are always sleeping on their recliners, they are exhausted just talking about it!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Lol Well I guess I'll graciously accept my cootness and give up denying it any longer.
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Tim are u serious they say we don't know how to make real coffee or cut wood and they are hosting tea parties with the boss. :)
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First off to become an old coot you have to go to a cash register somewhere and finding a nice looking young cashier and when you're done and she says thank you sir you know you are a old coot.
But to be retired old coot!! Only aged old coots have rules that are only understood by the retired old coots.
So, Lookn4guidance is just a kid that is confussed and does not listen to his mentor Jasper1.
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:) :) TB1 :) :) Don't be misled by the miscreant L$F.....you are just a big kid ;D L$F is jealous ::) because unlike him you are willing to take advice from "Old Coots" with Buku miles on their boots. ;D Us "Old Coots" had great expectations for him ;) but his potty mouth :P and bad attitude :P have just about sunk him :P :P The "Old Coots are happy to have you aboard ;D we can stop wasting time on... (you fill in the blank)....LookN_____less! :( :( Don't worry about him though ::) he will go tail between his legs ;D like a beagle caught chasing deer :P to his only remaining friend :P Guru Ernesto ::) who needs worm flags to find the mailbox :o In conclusion ??? is Cat season over ???? and how long a break is he on ?????? I'm waiting for the picture ??? of anything!!!!!! .......9 years is a long wait >:( >:( .............OH and some how he blinded Scott with his headlamp >:( >:( and now Scott's following him :P :P................... 8)
cur·mudg·eon1
/kərˈməjən/
noun
a bad-tempered or surly person.
synonyms: grumbler, complainer, moaner, curmudgeon, grump, sourpuss Jake if you made Breakfast today, you should now be familiar with the term....LOL
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TheBig1 says-
I'm only 39
Ole coots have children and hunting coats older than you.
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Lol. Well thanks for the welcome. Hern, that's fine, you fellas can have your coats that are older than me. I'm ok with that and Jaspr, I'll continue to relish in the fact that I'm just a big kid. I mean, that's what my wife calls me anyways. As for Lookn4, Y'all can leave me out of this. Lol
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TB1 don't listen to Jasper1 he is the ring leader. The only reason they have miles and miles on their boots is because they throw them in the back of the truck and take them for a ride. Those boots have a ton of miles on them but no tread wear. I will bet all of the have Sorel boots and wear the old wool red and black coats. And the old coots are not whipped by momma they were gelded many years ago.
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LMAO!
So what you're telling me is that they're so old that Jesus was in their yearbooks?
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I think that was when Jesus was a freshman! They were in the "senior" class... ;) ;) ;)
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Also, Ole Coots have to post the earliest and latest on this site
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:) :) Scott says: " Those boots have a ton of miles on them but no tread wear." :) :) Well of course they don't ;) "Old Coots" are thrifty ;D "Luke" OOPS I mean "Chad"!!! ::) don't be lured to the "Dark Side" by this little group of "Vagabonds" :P :P :P :P :P or you will end up _________less!! :o just like them! :( :( Next time your coming down off a particularly steep Mountain :P note the "Sport" along the road ??? heading to the top :P where his truck is parked ::) ::) Hat askew,coat open,gear dragging,sweating profusely ::) ::) ::) wind down your window and ask :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ Which one are you? ??? Scott or Timmy ?? :o :o :o There's your answer ;D ;D in the truck enjoying the "Heater" like the "Old Coot's" or out there freezing your "Bippy" :P :P :P :P......"J-Man".......... 8)
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LOL!!!!! Oh geez!!! Well I guess that answers my question, you guys are actually a bunch of alright people. ;D
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;) ;) ;) You've herd the story of the old bull and the young bull standing on the hill and the cows down in the meadow below.....well old coots are the old bull and you youngin's be the young bull :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X take that to the bank 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Scott says-
I will bet all of them have Sorel boots and wear the old wool red and black coats.
Am guilty...lol
Have Sorel's and Woolrich at back door...
(http://www.trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2016/01/full-1604-316380-img_0002.jpg)
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Words of wisdom right there. :o :o :o
Truth be told, I like the old coots or I wouldn't tease them. They are very knowledgeable if you can keep them awake long enough to filter through the BS.
IHaveADreamCatcher can't sleep at night because the Old Coots are hijacking posts so could we please get back on subject (Locating Coyotes).
Nothing beats a female howl or group yip howl for me however, most of my coyote hunting is north of route 80 and for some reason they seem to respond better up there than where I live.
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LOL You called it Scott!
Lookn4, where are you located at? I'm from Mifflinburg but live up near Wilkes Barre now. Oh how I miss home.
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Lookn2getbackontrack states-
...most of my coyote hunting is north of route 80 and for some reason they seem to respond better up there than where I live.
That's interesting.
Do you have any reasoning why that happens?
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:)
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I live in Cumberland county. South Central part of the state.
Hern, I feel the reason they are not as vocal is because of pressure and lack of big woods (Space). A vocal coyote is an exposed coyote. Exposed to hunters and other coyotes. I feel their home territories are smaller here because of the terrain and most coyotes stay away from confrontation unless they are the Alphas that are breeding or protecting. I also feel although the population is rapidly expanding in my area it is still lower than the north so there are less coyotes to be vocal. I am not sure what the holding capacity is in my area but again because of the terrain it would not be as high as up north. Just my thoughts for what it's worth.
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Hern
It's probably because there are more of em.
D-9's hunt starts at midnight. HOPE TO SEE Al Eppleman on Sunday.
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I may have posted this before or maybe on UB board. Had never used the siren to locate coyotes, just find areas with scat and tracks set up and call. However after reading about the siren for locating decided I'd give it try. Found a wide dry wash with plenty of cover for critters to spend the day in. From the top of the wash I had a good view of anything that that would move. I set up and turned the caller on with the siren full blast. Within
seconds I had a group of illegals bust out of the cover and scattered like quail, they too reacted to a siren.
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Now that's funny !!!!
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I may have posted this before or maybe on UB board. Had never used the siren to locate coyotes, just find areas with scat and tracks set up and call. However after reading about the siren for locating decided I'd give it try. Found a wide dry wash with plenty of cover for critters to spend the day in. From the top of the wash I had a good view of anything that that would move. I set up and turned the caller on with the siren full blast. Within
seconds I had a group of illegals bust out of the cover and scattered like quail, they too reacted to a siren.
LMAO!!!!!
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That would have been a sight to see. Run manny run!
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That's hilarious! Would've made a great YouTube video. :)
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Lookn2locate, thanks. That's sound reasoning.
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:) IHaveADreamCatcher can't sleep at night because the Old Coots are hijacking posts so could we please get back on subject (Locating Coyotes). :) :) Well in defense of "Hijacking" adding a little nonsense keeps the readers interested and all kinds of stuff surfaces funny (CJ's post) and other items of note. ;D ;D The "Best" way to locate a coyote ;).............."ASK PEOPLE YOU HAVE CONTACT WITH"..............My CEO was in Wellsboro recently for a Quilt Retreat :P she was staying in a place close to Morris...coyotes were howling both nights she was there. ;D some type of Religious Group owns the place for you guys who are up that way ;D I ask the PO clerk if she ever heard any at her place,located in the country. Well nope but my brother has some who are trying to catch the cats at his barn ::) ::) I went,he said have at it and get rid of the raccoon's also :) :) Rangers and road crews and the list goes on.......all these people can save you a lot of time :o...just sayin...... 8)
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;) ;) ;) ;) The milk truck drivers are some of the best sources for critter information ;) ;) ;) ;)
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So are township and state Police officers that work night shift or swing shift.
Or ask other folks that work 2nd or 3rd shift, coming or going to and from work during night time hours.