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Predator Hunting => Predator Hunting => Topic started by: predhunter82 on March 11, 2012, 10:10:06 AM
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I have a quick question for all the expierenced callers out there. I was calling last night mainly starting off with a female. Bark howl and then following it up by some whimpers. Basically trying to sounds as needy as ever( if you know what i mean). So i was about 24 minutes into my set and i heard 2 WHOOPS from about 300 to 4000to yards behind me. I continued my whimpers for about 20 more minutes. At this point i packed it up and left since i didnt see anything or hear anything else. Were the two whoops coyotes that winded me or was it another animal? Should i have stopped alling?
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Hard to say without hearing it myself but it sounds as if you were busted.
I have a question for you. Were you wimpering for 20 minutes straight?
I am far from a coyote hunting machine but I think people are over calling for coyotes. Anyone else think this?
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No i was not whimpering for 20 mon straight. Maybe 25 to 35to seconds and then silent for 3-5 min. Is this whoop a normal alert sound for coyotes?
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I don't know if its normal but definately a sign that you are busted. I have heard it several times. A heavy bark repeated two or three times is another sign. I still would wait a lot longer between sounds. 10 to 15 minutes, It's hard to guess on sounds unless you can see the coyote. A visual makes it easy to know when to call and when not to call.
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Was the woofs downwind of your location?If you were 24 minutes in I would say that was enough time for them to circle probably out of your sight and pickup your scent.Don't over do it with the calling.I can't say you did anything wrong,they are just extremely good at figuring out whats there and not being seen.Try not to give them a good downwind route,use roads,buildings even big open fields that you can see across to help with that.If there is a slight hill ,fencerow etc. downwind they will take advantage of it to circle and wind you.I think guys call in more coyotes than they realize they just never see them.Welcome to the thrills of coyote hunting.Probably the toughest critter out there to get a shot at.
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I heard this "whoop" once while howling to locate with my son, (not hunting).
It almost sounded like a human playing a trick on me, but right after the "whoop" the rest of the family group lit up, and we could here them charging through the dry leaves in the thick woods to our location.
They were within 30 or so yards when my 9 year old boy freaked out and yelled for me to get back in the truck, spooking them
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Leglifter
How far away from your son were they when they whooped? Is it possible that this sound in the coyote language could be used for more then one thing? At first i was associating this sound to the putt that a turkey makes to alert the rest.
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Yea I've heard the whoop or woof that leglifter is referring to,they do that just before they light up,but then there are times when all you here is a woof thats a bad sign.
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So do you guys think that if you were on a stand and heard yhem woof and they did not light up then it would be beneficial to howl?
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Leglifter
How far away from your son were they when they whooped? Is it possible that this sound in the coyote language could be used for more then one thing? At first i was associating this sound to the putt that a turkey makes to alert the rest.
We just parked along the road at a spot that I cant get permission on. The whoop was about 200 yards from us but the rest of the group was off to that coyotes left about 75 yards.
It almost seemed like the whoop was made by the dominant, telling the others to start yelling at us intruders.
I could almost picture the group listening to me and looking at each other not knowing what to do, then they gave us what for when they were prompted
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In my opinion if all you heard was a woof your busted.But it never hurts to try.
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Thats what i was thinking to. I guess its on a case by case basis.once your busted whats it hurt to call agwain. Who knows maybe it would get them to come back in. I will try it next time i get busted. Hopefully i have to wait a while.
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I think a desperate KiYi would work best in that situation
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i love all this info im finding on this site...this is some invaluable stuff...didnt know they had an alert sound...great to know...awesome stuff
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I think a desperate KiYi would work best in that situation
Been watching lots of videos to learn and this has worked to halt them in their tracks even after they busted the hunter.
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If you heard "whoop! there it is". You might have been at da club.. ;D
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i have heard that sound a bunch of times and you are not busted yet. usually when you hear it there is more than one dog in the area and they are split up. when you are busted you will know it, if they make any sound at all, usually they are just gone.
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usually when you hear it there is more than one dog in the area and they are split up.
I agree 100% with that theory
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If I was in the club then I guess it could have been a cougar calling out. As for there being more then on coyote in the area in your guys opinion is it better just to stay put and quite or to give a little bark or something. When this happened it was mating season and all I was doing was female whimpers every once in a while. Should I have played the hard to get game or a little of the come and get it???
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i would have gone with a couple of light wimpers and then nothing for 10 minutes.