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Title: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 14, 2009, 09:22:40 AM
 I know this topic gets covered many ways,but I was wondering what most of you like to use this time of year for call sounds?It seams as the season gets later the preference for certain sounds changes.Should we be using more territorial and mating sounds and give up on the food sounds?
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: 220_Woody on February 14, 2009, 09:49:33 AM
i think it all depends on how much pressure your hunting area gets. if you know your hunting areas where other callers are hunting.....you gotta figure the local predators have heard their fill of dyin bunny by this time of year. maybe go to bird sounds instead. i have to experience with the fox vocalizations while calling.
in any case, prey distress sounds work no matter what time of year, change it up an keep it fresh.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 15, 2009, 04:56:50 PM
 It sure is frustrating when you go into an area with hour old snow and see fresh tracks and leave empty handed.The calls that worked so well early in the season no longer produce.I know for a fact that coyotes will defend their  territories,will a fox do the same thing?If so territorial calls of some type would seem to work the best.Maybe this is just mother natures way of protecting the family groups so we have something to harvest next year.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: muttbuster on February 15, 2009, 05:02:00 PM
This is the time of the year when the predators have earned their masters degrees. Very well educated. I learned that last night.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxpro51 on February 15, 2009, 05:04:10 PM
SEX
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: muttbuster on February 15, 2009, 05:07:32 PM
Sex what Earl, that didn't sound good. Especially since we were together hunting till 2 am.
SEX
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxpro51 on February 15, 2009, 05:09:52 PM
I'll never tell Bumbuster if you don't. LOL
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: BP on February 15, 2009, 05:19:01 PM
SEX
Shoulda stayed home and got some? 8)
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: muttbuster on February 15, 2009, 05:30:25 PM
Should have. That's what the critters did.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: BP on February 15, 2009, 05:34:03 PM
Foxhole & Buttbuster, almost sounds like a xxx movie!
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: muttbuster on February 15, 2009, 05:39:22 PM
I'm to old for triple x, so I've downgraded myself to double x.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 15, 2009, 06:34:46 PM
 Deer sounds work for the rut.Turkey sounds work for spring gobbler.Fox sounds should work for mating season.Sounds pretty simple.The trouble is most of the electronic sounds are distress sounds and at least for me the fox sounds are hard to immitate with a mouth call.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: Trophiesonly on February 15, 2009, 08:22:16 PM
try this american singer canary 1
We killed fox over a similar canary sound.
We now use this one.
http://soundboard.com/sb/Canary_Bird_sounds.aspx
I think the sounds grab there attention
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 15, 2009, 08:30:12 PM
Interesting sound,not a distress sound for sure.Was your success on reds or grays?
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: Trophiesonly on February 15, 2009, 08:46:45 PM
we got 1 gray,and 5 reds.we dont have alot of fox.Mostly coyotes.
And reds for prior years.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxpro51 on February 15, 2009, 09:39:56 PM
How about a Gerbal call?
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 16, 2009, 09:05:49 PM
Might work. where can you get one of those?
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: Duffman on February 16, 2009, 10:32:15 PM
Foxpro has a few rodent sounds that sound like gerbals...
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 17, 2009, 08:19:43 PM
Is there anybody that knows of a mouth call that can sound like a gray fox pup or bark like a fox?
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: bigben on February 17, 2009, 08:24:32 PM
most enclosed reeds if they are tuned right can do it.  the only one I know of that can do it right off the get go is one of ernie wilsons calls. 
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: predator77 on February 17, 2009, 08:24:41 PM
(http://johnnystewart.com/images/2003/FC_1.jpg)
The johnny stewart fc1 made a good bark from what I remember. The squalls called in fox too.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: edhunts5 on February 17, 2009, 09:56:10 PM
I'm just learning but I know for sure hunting pressure makes a world of difference. 1 set never been called/hunted - grey within 10 minutes.  2 sets where I know theyre pressured saw eyes at a distance?  I dont think its a coinicidenc
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxpro51 on February 17, 2009, 09:57:16 PM
Open reed calls for me all the way. Critter call, Sceery call, Tweety calls-3, Dan thompson pup howler
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: BP on February 17, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
Open reed calls for me all the way. Critter call, Sceery call, Tweety calls-3, Dan thompson pup howler
What about Foxpro?
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: BP on February 17, 2009, 10:01:35 PM
I'm just learning but I know for sure hunting pressure makes a world of difference. 1 set never been called/hunted - grey within 10 minutes.  2 sets where I know theyre pressured saw eyes at a distance?  I dont think its a coinicidenc
You learn fast. Good observation!
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxpro51 on February 17, 2009, 10:01:53 PM
Speaking about Gerbals? I think Bp is into them.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: 220_Woody on February 17, 2009, 10:02:28 PM
pressure is a big factor thats for certain.

using new and different call sounds and how they are presented and changed during the set works wonders on pressured animals.

Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: BP on February 17, 2009, 10:03:26 PM
Speaking about Gerbals? I think Bp is into them.
Nope, their into you!
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxpro51 on February 17, 2009, 10:03:51 PM
I only use Foxpro as a coxer 75% of the time. I keep foxpro running all the time while using a hand call. Muttbuster will tell you how i work the call.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 18, 2009, 05:30:44 PM
 Foxpro,When using both calls is it best to work them both at the same time or alternate?
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: muttbuster on February 18, 2009, 06:14:38 PM
I'm not sure whats best but we use them at the same time and it works well for us. They're are several ways to do it. Maybe some of the other guys on here can tell you how they do it. We run the Foxpro at low volume for a few minutes and then use a hand call for about 10 to 15 seconds. The Foxpro is running the whole time. It's best to use a rat squeaker or something similar to that to pull them in.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 18, 2009, 06:28:46 PM
I have tried multiple calls at the same time with no success,I quess I didn't have the right combination.I always thought it had potential though.
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxpro51 on February 18, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
Running the foxpro at low volume while using a hand caller is very effective. The open reed hand caller are loud so i can also very the sound pitches. I only use hand caller to get animals attention from 500 yards plus and short yards 200 yards or less. I used two types of hand callers. Long range and Short range open reed callers. Long range open reed is Sceery and Critter calls. Short range is all the tweety open reeds. The squeaker/coaxer sounds in the Foxpro unit is constant and a constant sound is what sucks the predador in. Once i see eyes by using the hand caller I STOP CALLING with it. Let the small coaxer due the job. The Foxpro coaxer must be lowered in volume as animal is comming closer. (You will kill more animal with a mild sound coaxer than you will a loud blast.) You need to be careful on correct volume here. This has been very effective for me in Texas, Wyoming and here in Pa. Hope this helps. Earl Fairman
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 18, 2009, 10:31:17 PM
 I agree the coaxer sounds have been very affective for me also,just never used them like you do.Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: calls for this time of year
Post by: foxtrot on February 19, 2009, 08:09:23 PM
 Has anyone used any of the fox whistles and if so any results?