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Predator Hunting => Predator Hunting => Topic started by: predator77 on January 15, 2009, 07:14:54 PM
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It's the coldest it's been in years. I know predators have to eat more in weather like this but is it to cold to hunt? I guess what I'm asking is, Is it worth sitting in this cold to predator hunt? Is the risk worth the reward? Is predator hunting this time of year so good that you would be a fool to take advantage of this extreme weather? I NEED TO KNOW..... I've read so many things that I would like to know first hand from the hunters on here.
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...but is it to cold to hunt?
That's like asking are you too drunk to fish? ;D
Go for it! I like the cold nights.
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is there an increase in the response of predators in your opinion?(http://predatorxtreme.com/upfiles/hottieJakkicrop1.jpg)
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IMO, she is not a predator. She is prey and I prey for her to come into my stand on every set up.
Yea, I think the odds go up when it gets colder because they need more calories and I also think the odds increase when snow covers the ground.
The odds really zoom when you are out there verses here.
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Awesome, I'm gonna try to get out for a bit tonight if my wife don't get called in.
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Does she answer to a call? ;)
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hahaha, She's just like most predators, they just ignore me anyhow.
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In my own opinion when its this cold out single digits and below grey fox will hole up for a few days and reds and coyotes will travel more during the day.
When we get a break in the weather and it starts to warm up some is a great time for hunting.Then everything is running and hungry.
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Not me to darn cold. Predator77 post that picture i sent if you can
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(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq297/dawgpredator77/Hunting_Season.jpg)
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In my own opinion when its this cold out single digits and below grey fox will hole up for a few days and reds and coyotes will travel more during the day.
I've heard similar statements before and I ain't picking no fight because I don't have the exact answer, BUT, that sounds contradicting to me and makes no sense. If/when it gets colder, all critters need to eat more to maintain body heat and survive. All the critters we are talking about are canines and don't hibernate. How can one dog breed "hole up" and not eat for a few days in sub-freezing tempatures while the other 2 dog breeds increase their traveling/hunting/eating by adding daylight hours?
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HA 220 Woody check out who is in the crosshairs
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A cloud?
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whoever that is aiming....he's aint gonna hit crap..nuttin but air. now if he was a great shot like me...he's get all three in one shot! ;D
back to the topic at hand...i feel cold snaps like this one push the odds in your favor if you pull your panties up tight enough and stay on stand. BP is right...fox & coyotes have a high metabolism so they need more calories to keep body temps up. when they are gonna nap it would be in mid afternoon when the sun offers the most warmth while they take a break from hunting.
myself, Lookn4fur, Lifes2fun, BigBen, HuntingFool, Bootmud, TrappinJohn(we hope) and two others from new jersey will be up at Trackers camp this weekend hunting & trapping coyotes and bobcat. forcast is looking aweful bitter....with plenty of snow. should be a great weekend.
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Heck, its 9 degrees here. I'm trying to get the nerve to go out but my ass is telling no.
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should be a great weekend.
Ain't no way a Steeler fan would snuggle with all them guys for a weekend without cable or a dish! Don't be stashing anything in the freezer to offset d6's 5 point lead! Have fun.
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Finally some life.. The board has been dead since the new season of american idol came on.
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Worked all day outside,got home about 4pm-grapped my .223- made a few calls along the edge of the field. Shot a nice red-walked back to the house around 5pm, an opened up a cold beer. Does'nt get much better. Dress in layers you'll be fine. Get out there!
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Finally some life.. The board has been dead since the new season of american idol came on.
What is american idol?
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Finally some life.. The board has been dead since the new season of american idol came on.
What is American Idol? I kick the wife and kids out of my Man Cave when that crap comes on. I cannot subject myself and my mounts to that noise.
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AMERICAN IDOLS(http://i457.photobucket.com/albums/qq297/dawgpredator77/100_1325.jpg)
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Nice Red
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That was my first of the year. My son"s not to sure about it though.
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I'm going out tonight. If I'm not at the meeting tomorrow, it means I'm frozen to the ground somewhere.
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I'm going out tonight. If I'm not at the meeting tomorrow, it means I'm frozen to the ground somewhere.
Good luck
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I'm going out tonight. If I'm not at the meeting tomorrow, it means I'm frozen to the ground somewhere.
Now that's dedacation. Good luck. ;)
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They need water or they will freeze.Hunt near streams with thickets.
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Me going out tonight, bored at home
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No good, 2 Stands and my batteries died. My open reed primos call wasn't good enough I guess. My headlamp isn't bright enough for those bigger fields anyhow. See you guys tomorrow at the meeting.
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At least you tried
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BP asks...
I ain't picking no fight...All the critters we are talking about are canines and don't hibernate. How can one dog breed "hole up" and not eat for a few days in sub-freezing tempatures while the other 2 dog breeds increase their traveling/hunting/eating by adding daylight hours?
Because you are talking about three different critters. They don't hibernate, you're right. They will hole up during extreme conditions,all 3, even Wolves. High winds, heavy snow, heavy rain will force these critters to lay up from hunting/traveling. Their nature is to wait it out. Wait to hunt or to breed. They sense approaching weather fronts and feed up before foul weather. During extended cold periods, they will hunt/travel when hunger urges 'em. Breeding season has a large window, and it will occur, sooner or later.
Grey Fox can hole up because of fat reserves. Any one that has skun a Grey can testify to Fat and having to flesh 'em. Greys live in a small area and don't have to travel far.
Red Fox have little Fat and have to keep moving. Reds do lay up for a day or two or three but have to keep moving and that's part of their nature. Skun a Red and see how much Fat is on the hide.
Coyote hole up too for several days. Coyote do have Fat, just skun a flee biten, stinky Coyote.
Canines, by adding daylight travel hours during or mid-January to late February will get the breeding done and food in their belly.
I am not an expert. These are my obersvations and knowledge from studies I read. Am interested in learning more.
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7 below last night. I tried but only lasted 3 stands. We did notice lots of fox tracks in the snow. Fox are in pairs.
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I have notticed they are running in pairs also but no luck calling them in. think I,ll start hunting them with the truck they seem to be running in front of it more.
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I would agree with hern. With the extreme cold at night, you are more apt to see more critter activety in daylight hours. ;)
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Rosko, funny you said that. Both pairs of fox were walking down the middle of dirt or gravel roads.
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I've been dealing with the same in my area. Tracks everywhere (even in my neighbors yard) but I can't call them in. I'm downloading the female red fox in heat mp3. Maybe that will work. They have to be moving sometime through the day or night to leave tracks.
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I plan to put an all out assalt on them tonite the truck is full of gas and everything is charged. We,ll see what happens.
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I was out before daylight this morning. Nothing.
Came home to warm up and headed out at daybreak. Made a few stands along back roads. Saw one Red and didn't get a shot.
I gave up just before ten o'clock.
Called Tom P. on my way home and he said it was -10 degrees! No wonder I was cold... :o
Tom and I talked about the conditions here in the central Susquehanna Valley and Buffalo Valley. It's near impossible to make a quite approach to a stand. We have snow, then an icy glaze then another inch of snow. Crunch, crunch, crunch. Rough conditions. Am hole'n up the rest of the weekend with Whiskey and Water.
Is there any Golf or Racing on TV this weekend? I need a good nap.
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Just looked out side here in wesrten Pa. it is dumping down the snow that will make it hard to see tonite. Hope it stops in a little while, a fresh coating will make it nice to see fresh tracks.
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Just got back in from huntin, it,s snowin so hard I could,nt see 20 feet in front of me for the last 2 sets so it was time to hang it up till tommorrow morning. these old eyes can see a little better in the daylite anyways.
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Well, It's blizzard conditions in NW PA right now. It was 1 degree this morning and I stayed home to work on calls. Tomorrow I plan to head out in the mornig regardless of temps. I need to get out for a spell. And my snowshoes need a good workout anyway. I have at least 3-4 stand locations in mind maybe more if I get in touch with a landowner tomorrow. You gotta be out where the fur is to put it down. I will be back in time to watch Arizona head to the Superbowl though. ;D
Steve
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I will be back in time to watch Arizona head to their winter vacation spot.
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I'D BE HUNTING. ITS PRIME TIME. COLD WEATHER, MATING SEASON, CANT KILL THEM IF YOURE NOT HUNTING. THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST HUNTING AND TRAPPING SEASON I EVER MISSED. LEAVING FOR IRAQ IN A COUPLE DAYS. BE BACK IN SEPTEMBER. I FEEL BAD FOR THEM PREDATORS NEXT YEAR.
OTHER THAN MISSING MY KIDS MISSING HUNTING AND TRAPPING IS THE WORST.
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Ed... thank you for your service... good luck and keep your powder dry... get back here safely in time for next season...
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I'D BE HUNTING. ITS PRIME TIME. COLD WEATHER, MATING SEASON, CANT KILL THEM IF YOURE NOT HUNTING. THIS IS THE FIRST AND LAST HUNTING AND TRAPPING SEASON I EVER MISSED. LEAVING FOR IRAQ IN A COUPLE DAYS. BE BACK IN SEPTEMBER. I FEEL BAD FOR THEM PREDATORS NEXT YEAR.
OTHER THAN MISSING MY KIDS MISSING HUNTING AND TRAPPING IS THE WORST.
Ed, Thank you for your service and dedication to this Great Country, The United States of America. It is men and women like you that make me proud.
Do keep in mind you are hunting predators, just a different kind.
Be safe on your tour of duty and I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
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ED be careful.. Take your predator call. Perhaps you can call one in.
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Ed becareful over there and thanks for all you service man and wamen have done for this great country. P.S. do any of you know how to prolong e-caller battery life in these temps.
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P.S. do any of you know how to prolong e-caller battery life in these temps.
use foam or whatever to insulate it against the cold... get a hand warmer and wrap it up with the battery...