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Predator Hunting => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: scott on May 09, 2008, 06:26:07 AM

Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: scott on May 09, 2008, 06:26:07 AM: while predator hunting it seems i always bring the wrong gun with me. so for a while now i have wanted and shotgun/rifle combo. i just picked up a remington spartan 12 over .223 and plan on shooting it today. anybody have any experience with this gun???
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: bigben on May 09, 2008, 06:43:28 AM: yep I like mine. mine is pretty accurate too. check the zero at different ranges because with the rifle barrel being on the bottom it makes the trajectory a bit different.
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: scott on May 09, 2008, 07:00:43 AM: thanks ben, i planned on shooting it at 25, 50, 75, and 100 to see what it does, where do you have yours sighted in at 100 yards???
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: bigben on May 09, 2008, 07:32:46 AM: actually I have mine shot in at 75 yds. 100yds is only a lil bit different in poi. I have where it hits on the stock of the gun so I know where to aim. I am hoping to get the scope mounted lower this summer. right now it looks like it is sitting on top of the world with as high as it is.
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: archerobx on May 09, 2008, 08:29:35 AM: welcome to the wonderfull world of combo guns. I have a savage but love it. congrats.
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: scott on May 16, 2008, 06:27:50 AM: well, i finally got out to shoot this gun and i was quite surprise how it shot. i am 1/2in low at 50 yards, dead on at 75 yards and 1 in high at 100 yards. the trigger does have some creep in it, but it shot well enough for me. i also sighted in the open sights dead on at 50 yards. i still have to shoot the shotgun which shouldn't be a problem.
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: BP on May 16, 2008, 06:04:07 PM: Quote from: "scott"
i am 1/2in low at 50 yards, dead on at 75 yards and 1 in high at 100 yards.

I'm not sure that's possible!
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: Dale on May 16, 2008, 07:02:40 PM: why not?... with the high line of sight it's entirely possible...
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: BP on May 16, 2008, 08:14:39 PM: Quote from: "Dale"
why not?... with the high line of sight it's entirely possible...

Physically impossible!
1/2" low @ 50
zero'd @ 75 -bullet rising 1/2" over 25 yard span
1" high @ 100 -bullet rising 1" over the next 25 yard span
This would require an upside down tragectory arc defying all known laws of physics.
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: Dale on May 17, 2008, 01:51:33 AM: dunno who thought up that philosophy but they need to take another course in terminal ballistics...
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: BP on May 17, 2008, 07:46:21 AM: If you think that bullet path is possible, maybe it is a philosophy. :lol:
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: Dale on May 17, 2008, 10:41:28 AM: so explain why it wouldn't be possible when you have the line of sight sitting 2-2 1/2 inches above the bore of the rifle...
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: BP on May 17, 2008, 01:52:26 PM: From 50 - 75 it climbs 1/2" (bullet is on its way up to line of sight)
from 75 - 100 it climbs 1" (bullet still on its way up at double the rate)
It's rate of climbing can't increase over distance. I know you know more about ballistics than me, but it doesn't take Mr. Wizard to see this is impossible without afterburners on the bullet.
Title: finally got my predator gun.
Post by: scott on May 19, 2008, 06:42:19 AM: not sure about the physics behind it, but i was shooting off sandbags and shooting 3 shot groups at each range, that is how the gun shot.