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Offline TrappinJohn

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« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2007, 08:42:15 PM »
This is a great post.  Keep typing, we're listening. 8)

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« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2007, 08:59:51 PM »
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You know enough stuff already. I will have to wait until the next holiday to talk about worm air currents and wind. And what about using all this information and proper calling set up after all that air current and wind information. Wait it can take a life time, who has that much time. :shock:
For a brief moment I could hear nature through all the noise.

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« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2007, 09:39:37 PM »
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 I will have to wait until the next holiday to talk about worm air currents and wind.

Hot air?

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« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2007, 09:53:11 PM »
For a brief moment I could hear nature through all the noise.

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« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2007, 09:58:03 PM »
Rocky, bouldery, clear blue skies, game everywhere. Didn't want to come back but heard you were being "long winded" about "hot air" and didn't want to miss a "breath".

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« Reply #20 on: September 04, 2007, 06:36:37 AM »
Buckwheat asks-
Ever notice how cold it is in the morning down low in the valley and kind of nicer up on top of the mountain.
Yes.
-So air currents happen during warming and cooling? Right? Wrong? Happening during certain times of the day? Right? Wrong?
-Ground level air currents don't move during stable tempertures? Right? Wrong?

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« Reply #21 on: September 04, 2007, 03:03:54 PM »
Hot air rises and cold air sinks. :P
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« Reply #22 on: September 04, 2007, 04:31:58 PM »
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Hot air rises and cold air sinks. :P

So, lets see if i got this right. Up in your tree stand 20 feet and it's warm outside and you fart (hotair) :shock: , there'll be no smell on the ground ?? :roll: Oh wait, that must be when the air currents kick in,RIGHT ? :?

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« Reply #23 on: September 04, 2007, 06:14:20 PM »
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True, hot rises and cold air falls and everybody knows that I would hope. The problem seams hunters do not under stand how it causes air currents to flow right at ground level. If a hunter does not under stand how the air flows right on the ground there is no way for a hunter to know when a predator is heading down stream of his sent trail. Most hunters (only) consider wind when considering there sent trail and most give it little thought unless the wind is  blowing over 5 mph or more.
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« Reply #24 on: September 04, 2007, 06:28:30 PM »
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There are always hot and cold differences in the air. Since hot and cold air is always changing position, you tell me when you think there are air currents flowing right at ground level.
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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2007, 10:48:16 PM »
Longhair,
I use the fart muffler.  :wink:
 

I have a different veiw on air currents (wind), and feel on a dead calm night it would be rare that it would effect your calling. Not to mention that there are many many things that have an effect, the slightest breeze, radiation, humidity, barometic pressure, etc.
Its not very often that I'm out calling and there is NO wind.
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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2007, 11:04:49 PM »
Tracker,
 Could you give a little more detail on the "fart muffler"??  :?

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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2007, 11:26:07 PM »
Its just like the cough muffler except for the other end.
If you have both make sure you don't get em mixed up. :shock:  :lol:
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« Reply #28 on: September 05, 2007, 08:45:13 PM »
Buckwheat says-
Hern...you tell me when you think there are air currents flowing right at ground level
Naw. You are doing the talk'n. I just ask a few questions to learn. You tell us.

My father raised Beagles. So I grew up with hounds. I learn there are different scenting conditions. Wet, bone dry, dew on grass, snow, wet snow, dry snow, ice covered snow, heavy leaves, pine needles & windy conditions.
Now there are many variables with a hound trailing a rabbit. Maybe even the rabbit isn't giving off much scent to begin with.
But scenting conditions play a major role for a mediocre hound. Good hounds are hard to find. I mean a hound that can trail in most conditions.
I offend wonder how many mediocre Fox are out there. I guess not too many or they won't survive past winter.
But it's still a possibility that some Fox don't fair well during certain scenting conditions (I have no way to prove this, just another thing to think about).
Light rain to drizzle all night with a fog or slight fog...Usually not a good time to call predators because of the fog...but the critters are moving ahoy on thesehere nights...my traps prove it. Could be prime scenting conditions, no wind, lots of ground level air current.

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« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2007, 10:34:54 PM »
Here is another thing to consider.
Human scent is lighter than animal scents. That's why it's a good idea to mist or use animal scents as a cover up, as they ride lower in the air currents.
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