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Title: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: uncle buck on July 15, 2013, 02:00:06 PM
My brother Tom told me about a PROPOSED house bill to pay people $25.00 for each coyote they harvest in Pa if they have a Hunting license and furtakers license...they will set up a pot of money each year:  $700,000.00 (to a special account)  to pay hunters and furtakers if you harvest a coyote..  PPHA members might want to support this?...I could make predator hunting take off in Pa.  Also why not get another $25.00 for harvesting a coyote..  That's just the way it is..Thank you Tom Monko for telling me about this..

House Bill No. 1534 Session  2013
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Bowman66 on July 15, 2013, 02:31:50 PM
Sounds great if it passes.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Misterjake23 on July 15, 2013, 11:17:19 PM
I wonder why they are requireing a furtakes license since you don't need one to harvest coyote's in PA???
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Lookn4Fur on July 16, 2013, 08:30:33 AM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: swarter2 on July 16, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
I wonder why they are requireing a furtakes license since you don't need one to harvest coyote's in PA???

It should be hunting and/or furtakers license
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Lookn4Fur on July 16, 2013, 02:18:02 PM
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF PENNSYLVANIA

HOUSE BILL
No.   1534   Session of
2013

INTRODUCED BY PEIFER, CALTAGIRONE, CAUSER, COHEN, DENLINGER, EMRICK, EVERETT, FARINA, FLECK, FLYNN, GINGRICH, C. HARRIS, HEFFLEY, HESS, JAMES, KORTZ, MILLARD, MOUL, READSHAW, SWANGER AND TOOHIL, JUNE 17, 2013

REFERRED TO COMMITEE ON GAME AND FISHERIES, JUNE 17, 2013

AN ACT
 
Amending Title 34 (Game) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes, providing for a coyote control incentive program.
The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania hereby enacts as follows:
Section 1.  Chapter 5 of Title 34 of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes is amended by adding a subchapter to read:
SUBCHAPTER F
COYOTE CONTROL INCENTIVE PROGRAM
Sec.
571.  Establishment.
572.  Account.
573.  Regulations.
§ 571.  Establishment.
The commission may create a coyote control incentive program to compensate properly licensed hunters and furtakers $25 for each coyote lawfully harvested.
§ 572.  Account.
(a)  Creation.--A special account is created within the Game Fund to fund payments under section 571 (relating to establishment) and a use under subsection (d).
(b)  Transfer.--The amount of $700,000 shall be annually transferred from the Game Fund to the special account for, except as provided under subsection (d), the coyote control incentive program.
(c)  Limit.--The total annual expenditures from the coyote control incentive program may not exceed the annual amount designated for the coyote control incentive program.
(d)  Remaining funds.--Funds remaining in the special account at the end of a fiscal year may be used for a purpose other than making a payment under section 571.
§ 573.  Regulations.
The commission shall promulgate rules and regulations necessary for the implementation of this subchapter.
Section 2.  This act shall take effect in 60 days.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Bowman66 on July 16, 2013, 03:26:11 PM
I better learn how to close the deal on some yotes fast now!
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Lifes2fun on July 16, 2013, 06:58:13 PM
Note section D of the funding
Just another way for the GA to grab money from the PGC
If you want to hunt coyotes then do it because you love it
Not because you might get $25 for one
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Buckwheat on July 16, 2013, 08:23:37 PM
Lifes2fun
Ya, that section D is bull shi##. All the study's ever done have shown bountys have never worked. Somebody just figured out a way to get money for some unknown reason we do not know about!
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Misterjake23 on July 17, 2013, 04:52:14 AM
     With a bountyof $25 for each coyote and putting in $700,000, according to my math, that means to exhaust the fund, there would have to be 28,000 coyotes killed!!

     Maybe I'm nieve and ignorant to PA's coyote population,  but do they think there are actually 28,000 coyotes in PA????
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: jaspr1 on July 17, 2013, 05:37:11 AM
JMO...I hope this dies a quick death.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Lookn4Fur on July 17, 2013, 08:31:00 AM
Not only is there way more than 28,000 coyotes but Pennsylvanians harvest around 40,000 a year!  And it is still growing.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: bigben on July 17, 2013, 09:08:38 AM
I agree with jaspr. It will be like mosquito creek weekend year round if it gets passed. Money makes people do things they shouldnt.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Lookn4Fur on July 17, 2013, 09:52:44 AM
I also agree.  Bounty's do not work.  Maybe I am selfish but I have enough predator hunters around me.  I don't want an increase of hunters just looking for a buck.  As previously stated, "hunt them because you love too".
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: zekedogg on July 17, 2013, 10:41:20 AM
JMO...I hope this dies a quick death.

I agree! This looks like a money grab for our legislators. Think about it. if there are 2000 yotes turned in at $25 a piece that $50,000.00 where's the other $650,000.00 going? What exactly does "Funds remaining in the special account at the end of a fiscal year may be used for a purpose other than making a payment under section 571" mean? Will that money go back to the game fund?
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Buckwheat on July 17, 2013, 01:15:07 PM
LOL
It justs goes to special fund account. What the he## is special fund account!!
Just like taxes, you probably will never really know we're the money goes after a few years when nobody is watching it closely. But it will be a special place I am sure. Just not back to hunters that payed there money for this special place.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: TFC2223 on July 17, 2013, 04:10:38 PM
Bounties won't work.  True predator hunters are not fueled by $25.00 per coyote to go and hunt them.  As stated before when money is involved along with it generally comes alot of negative.  If you are having difficulty or think coyotes are hard to hunt now wait until they make it like Mosquito Creek year around.   I am also amused by how the rest of the unused bounty money goes to an unspecified venue. 
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: TrappinJohn on July 17, 2013, 05:22:57 PM
JMO...I hope this dies a quick death.

Me too

How do you suppose they would try to pull this off?  Check stations?  Would the WCOs have to run around checking them?  They have much better things to spend their time and money on
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: uncle buck on July 18, 2013, 12:17:46 AM
There are a lot of Pro and Con about this if  approved:

Pro that I can think of:
Sale of all kinds of predator calling gear!
More people hunting predators !
Make farmers happy!
Sale more hunting license !
Help local economy in towns where people hunt!
Sale of trapping supplies!
Money for gas and ammunition!
Research on coyotes if blood  samples taken by biologist!
Statistical data on locations of coyote harvest!

Con
Destruction of predator calling for previous predator calling community!
Closure of hunting lands because farmers will even trap and hunt!
Conflicts at night when callers run into other callers or trappers! Traps stolen or set off by other coyote hunters!
Dog hunters really hitting areas harder to get money for the up keep of dogs!
For those who make the coyote a trophy you might have to turn coyote over to get the $25.00!

Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: uncle buck on July 18, 2013, 12:23:03 AM
If they were smart they should take the coyote and for every $25.00 out they can sale the pelt and replenish some of the $25.00 back into the account! Pa Eastern Coyote is not worth when prime! Maybe $18.00 if skinned and stretched properly!
IMO the Eastern Coyote is a trophy and I would rather keep it as a trophy instead of getting $25 bucks!
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: bigben on July 18, 2013, 09:02:54 AM
Trespassing as well. Its bad enough now to catch someone hunting spots they arent allowed to. Wait till $ signs start flashing.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: my7pointmonster on July 18, 2013, 11:10:15 PM
I'd like to welcome Kirk back to the forums!!!!!!

Ryan
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Hern on July 19, 2013, 06:20:43 AM
That proposal won't fly.

All good points above.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Papa1 on July 21, 2013, 09:05:25 PM
A whole lot of questions.  Officers please offer us good, educated answers, not negative opinions.  Dick
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Buckwheat on July 21, 2013, 09:37:43 PM
Papa1
I am no officer but I do know bountys have never worked. Besides if they are so interested in what coyotes might kill and damage our other animals.  Why did they released the fisher? Fishers are way worse then the coyote will ever be on critters.
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Leglifter on July 22, 2013, 06:15:24 AM
A whole lot of questions.  Officers please offer us good, educated answers, not negative opinions.  Dick

Please explain this statement
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Papa1 on July 22, 2013, 10:01:16 PM
It was a request for information.  Dick
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Bowman66 on July 23, 2013, 01:47:04 AM
There has been no action on this bill other than being introduced on July 17 by the looks of things ie:there are no roll call votes for this bill currently.
What other info are you requesting pertaining to this post?
Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: zekedogg on July 23, 2013, 07:54:14 AM
There really is no information other than what was posted. The bill was just introduced on June 17th. It was not voted on and was referred to Game and Fisheries. Here is a list of the members of the Game and Fisheries Committee. This is all the information I have at this time. For those of you from PA., it is your right as a citizen and a sportsman to contact them if you so desire.


Causer, Martin T., Chair - 107 South Main Street Room 1 Coudersport, PA 16915 (814) 274-9769 Fax: (814) 274-8159


Haluska, Gary, Democratic Chair -  323 Mellon Avenue Suite 1 Patton, PA 16668 (814) 674-8939 Fax: (814) 674-5008

Majority

Rock, Todd, Vice Chair - 20 E. Sixth Street Suite 203 Waynesboro, PA 17268 (717) 749-7384 Fax: (717) 762-4380, 39 Chambers Lane Suite 102 Greencastle, PA 17225 (717) 597-2224 Fax: (717) 597-3988

Lucas, Gregory S., -  Secretary161 W. Erie St. PO Box 455 Linesville, PA 16424 (814) 683-5550 Fax: (814) 683-4246, 124 Meadville Street Room 215 Edinboro, PA 16412 (814) 734-2793 Fax: (814) 734-4534

Cox, Jim -  2909 Windmill Road Suite 7 Sinking Spring, PA 19608 610) 670-0139 Fax: (610) 927-3584

Emrick, Joe -  5 Mt. Bethel Plaza Mt. Bethel, PA 18343 (570) 897-0401 Fax: (570) 897-0140, 134 South Main Street Nazareth, PA 18064 (610) 746-5090 Fax: (610) 746-5093

English, Harold A. -4290 William Flinn Highway Suite 200 Allison Park, PA 15101 (412) 487-6605 Fax: (412) 487-5086

Everett, Garth D. -  Penn Hills Plaza 21 Kristi Rd., Suite 1 Muncy, PA 17756 (570) 546-2084 Fax: (570) 546-5220

Fee, Mindy - 47 Market Square Manheim, PA 17545 (717) 664-4979 Fax: (717) 664-4997,  503 Main St. Denver, PA 17517 (717) 336-2199 Fax: (717) 336-4522

Gillespie, Keith - 4188 Lincoln Highway York, PA 17406 (717) 840-4711 Fax: (717) 755-2896

Hahn, Marcia M. - 354 West Moorestown Road Nazareth, PA 18064 (610) 746-2100 Fax: (610) 746-3803

Heffley, Doyle - 110 North Third Street 2nd Floor Lehighton, PA 18235 (610) 377-6363 Fax: (610) 377-5675, American Legion Building 3 West Ridge Street Lansford, PA 18232,  2681 State Rte 903 Unit 3 P.O. Box 1008 Albrightsville, PA 18210 (570) 722-8700 Fax: (570) 722-8702

Keller, Mark K. - 18 West Main Street PO Box 9 New Bloomfield, PA 17068 (717) 582-8119 (800) 959-8119 Fax: (717) 582-8979, 1270 Crottlestown Road Chambersburg, PA 17202 (717) 267-2047 Fax: (717) 267-7024

Maloney, David M., Sr.
- 46 East Philadelphia Avenue Boyertown, PA 19512 (610) 369-3010 Fax: (610) 369-3011, 515 Old Swede Road Suite B2 Douglassville, PA 19518 (610) 385-0704 Fax: (610) 385-1176

Moul, Dan - 30 West Middle Street Gettysburg, PA 17325 (717) 334-3010 (866) 646-4915 Fax: (717) 334-8426

Peifer, Michael
- 32 Commercial Street Suite 300 Honesdale, PA 18431 (570) 253-5533 Fax: (570) 253-8046


Minority

Mullery, Gerald J., Democratic Secretary -  156 South Market Street Nanticoke, PA 18634 (570) 740-7031 Fax: (570) 826-2584

Galloway, John T., Democratic Vice Chair - 8610 New Falls Road Levittown, PA 19054 (215) 943-7206 Fax: (215) 943-2008

Farina, Frank
- 423 Main Street Eynon, PA 18403 (570) 876-1111 Fax: (570) 876-5304

Gergely, Marc J. - 1540 Lincoln Way White Oak, PA 15131 (412) 664-0035 Fax: (412) 664-0039, 1705 Maple Street Suite 110 Homestead, PA 15120 (412) 476-3046 Fax: (412) 476-3048

Haggerty, Kevin - 1414 Monroe Avenue Dunmore, PA 18509 (570) 342-2710

Kula, Deberah - 1251 University Drive Dunbar, PA 15431 (724) 626-2761 Fax: (724) 626-2707, 1 Etze Avenue Municipal Building Mt. Pleasant, PA 15666 (724) 547-4057 Fax: (724) 547-0399

Mahoney, Tim - 66A Lebanon Avenue Uniontown, PA 15401 (724) 438-6100 Fax: (724) 438-6104, 2925 National Pike Chalk Hill, PA 15421 (724) 437-2521 Fax: (724) 437-2525

Snyder, Pam - 104 South Market Street Suite 101 Carmichaels, PA 15320 (724) 966-8953 Fax: (724) 966-8958, 33 Market Street Suite 1 Brownsville, PA 15417 (724) 785-8477, 93 East High Street Room 215 Waynesburg, PA 15370 (724) 627-8683

White, Jesse - 3855 Millers Run Road PO Box 285 Cecil, PA 15321 (724) 746-3677 Fax: (724) 746-3799, 2403 Jefferson Avenue Suite C Washington, PA 15301 (724) 222-4192 Fax: (724) 222-4194, 1435 Burgettstown Plaza Burgettstown, PA 15021 (724) 947-4422 Fax: (724) 947-5386




Title: Re: Coyote Control Incentive Program House Bill No. 1534 session 2013
Post by: Papa1 on July 24, 2013, 09:10:06 PM
Thanks Zeke,  You are in the Black with this post.  We need members back and this is the proper and professional approach to this topic.  Dick