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Predator Hunting => Predator Hunting => Topic started by: PA-Joe on December 30, 2005, 08:18:11 AM

Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: PA-Joe on December 30, 2005, 08:18:11 AM: Are we allowed to use #4 Buck Shot this season? Can it be used for fox too?
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: dreamcatcher on December 30, 2005, 09:27:26 AM: Not sure on the date it is legal, but will be for all predators.
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Dale on December 30, 2005, 04:15:10 PM: it is now legal for use for all fur...
Title: #4 buckshot...
Post by: Nunk on December 30, 2005, 05:57:31 PM: Very true. It became effective Dec. 3rd.
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: hunterdaddy on February 05, 2006, 08:02:29 PM: I hunted yotes once used 3 and 1/2 in 00B

It wasnt leagle? Is it now?
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: bigben on February 06, 2006, 03:37:15 PM: no OO buck is bigger then #4 buck
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: pistonring8 on February 06, 2006, 05:29:40 PM: I keep a few rounds of that 3 1/2 00 Buck in case I ever get attacked by a dinosaur. But I would be affraid to shoot a Coyote with it. Wouldn't it tear him up pretty badly?

I was thinking of packing 3"- 3 1/2" #4 turkey loads when I hunt them this year. Maybe with an extra full turkey choke.

Is #4 Buckshot bigger than a #4 turkey load? What kind of havok would that reek on a dogs pelt at 50 yards?

What are most shotgunners favorite loads for coyote?

Thanks.
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: PA-Joe on February 07, 2006, 07:20:10 AM: #4 Shot (0.129) is much smaller in diameter than No. 4 Buck Shot (0.240)and you have around 135/oz pellets compared to 21/oz for the buck shot.
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Dale on February 07, 2006, 02:36:02 PM: Quote
What kind of havok would that reek on a dogs pelt at 50 yards?

at 50 yards, it shouldn't be a problem at all... the pattern is starting to thin out and spread so you'll not have the ripping problems of much closer shots...
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: BigBlue on February 07, 2006, 05:21:35 PM: What size choke would you use with the # 4 buck shot? I'm not much of a shotgunner, so if this is a dumb question just say so. I would have thought a full choke, possibly out of a camo'd turkey gun, but I'm just guessing.
Don
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: pistonring8 on February 07, 2006, 06:54:17 PM: Yea, thats what I'm useing. A Mossberg camo turkey 12 guage. It came with an XXfull choke, but you can't (shouldn't) shoot buckshot through it. For buckshot I spent $12 on a "full" choke a Walmart. Improved cyl. choke works great for small game, but would spread out your shot a bit much with the bigger stuff.

So I was thinking, either #4 turkey loads through the XXfull choke, or #4 buck through the full choke should be ok for coyote, but I could use a second opinion. Maybe from someone who has called a few in?
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Dale on February 07, 2006, 07:46:52 PM: chokes will vary from gun to gun... you may get away with a full choke, but I'd be inclined to look at a Modified first and go from there...

when I get around to setting up a gun for buckshot, a vintage Wingmaster slug gun that's been threaded for the Hastings Tru-Chokes, I'll go right to my G-smith and have him start out tight and work it out a couple thousands at a time... if it gets to loose then we know where to start on a new tube...

I'm thinking that an Improved-Modified would be a good choice if you could find one...
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Dale on February 07, 2006, 07:49:23 PM: P-Ring you need to hike your happy butt on down to the Woodward Bro's and let them set you up with a tube for your gun... they're some of the better choke smith's around... :twisted:
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Cannon Hollow Hounds on February 27, 2006, 12:55:48 AM
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Dale on February 27, 2006, 10:19:37 AM: CHH welcome to the boards... the gun should work, but the first thing I'd do with it is have a foot cut off the barrel and have it threaded for choke tubes... 36" is way to long to try and be swinging especially in any cover... great for the goose blind though... for ammo, I'd round up some large shot, like F or #4 buckshot and pattern it to see what choke shot it the best...
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Cannon Hollow Hounds on February 27, 2006, 11:01:53 AM: Dale, Thanks for the welcome , and the info. I had thought about the length of the barrel when I bought it but I got it used in mint cond. at a great price. I knew it was a goose gun as it has "Super Goose" stamped right into the barrel. Now, is there any certain brand of tube I should get it threaded for or are they all the same ? Also, when you sat "F" shot, can you explain that as I have never heard of it. New to this predator stuff..lol.. but have patterned a lot of different shots for turkey so I won't have any problem there.One more thing I been thinking about. What would you consider the max. range for this gun and would I be better off aiming for heads or front shoulders ? Thanks from a newbie, CHH
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Dale on February 28, 2006, 10:40:19 AM: as for brand of choke tubes available, I'd have to go with the Browning or Hastings tubes... not many people making them for a 10ga in a variety of sizes...

F shot is one of the small buckshot sizes, next size up from T shot... hmmm after a closer look that may only be available in steel any more... F shot is about .20 in diameter, FF is .22 then into #4 buck at .24...

the #4 turkey loads will work ok for close {25yard} shots on fox, but they don't take a lot of killing anyways... better and still available is the Federal copper plated, buffered BB... that will flat put the smack on a fox, and is heavy enough for coyote to probably 35 yards if your gun will pattern it good... your best bet is to go straight to the #4 buckshot though and have both ends covered...
Title: #4 Buck Shot
Post by: Cannon Hollow Hounds on February 28, 2006, 04:44:47 PM: OK, thanks. You gave me a good place to get started anyhow... CHH