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Predator Hunting => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: Lookn4Fur on December 28, 2015, 09:20:39 AM
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God is good and so is Santa!
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You'll love that gun!!! Does it have the set trigger?
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>:( >:( >:( Boy Pop really takes good care of you :P :P :P :P I must be the green sheep of the family :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ No wonder you didn't buy the 338 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Yes it has the set trigger and now I need a really good scope. Maybe Pops will buy me one. Any suggestions?
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I Have a Zeiss Conquest on mine and absolutely love the scope, have one on my 204 as well.
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http://www.eurooptic.com/zeiss-conquest-3-9x40-zplex-reticle-hunting-turrets-matte-black-5214609920.aspx
Tim, here's a good deal ......
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I was thinking of a wider bell. Maybe 50 mm. Whats your opinion on the 40 mm?
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Mine are the 40's and the glass just soaks up every little light. I have no complaints at all. My light fits perfectly on top of the 40, on the 50 you may have to tweek your light set up
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With a good light on top you won't have any problems seeing with a 40 mm. If you decide to buy the Zeiss and don't like it.... I'll buy it from you.
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;) ;) ;) Jake of course it would be a used price?? ::) ::) ::)
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Of course. Just like a car, drive it off the lot and it depreciates 15%
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Wow! You must really like that scope. Of course if I touch it the price is doubled. Lol :o :o :o :o :o :o
You are talking me into it. Do you think the reticle is too thick?
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Tim,
Some of the scopes are going with a bigger ocular lens on their newer models. I put a Nikon 3x9x50 on one of my CZs and it touched when you worked the bolt. The gun dealer said it might be a problem with some of the leupolds also. Even on my 40s you can hardly get a piece of paper between the bolt and scope when you extract a round.
you are going to love that gun, they are accurate.
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Scott, had the same problem with my Rem 600. I just swapped out the low rings with medium rings and the problem was solved. May or may not work with different rifles and bolt styles.
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Tim, I have a CZ already set up with that scope. Let me know if you'd like to see and shoot it. You're not that far from me. Maybe even use that as an excuse to do a little hunting !!!
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Tim dont let Jake fool ya, His CZ is as cherry as they come, if you want to shoot a fox killer, my rig is the one you wanna try! lolololololo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
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Darin, I didn't say it was broke in. I was simply going to let him hold it so he could get an idea what a nice rig looks and feels like!! I hate to take it out into the woods, I might put a scratch on the fine looking wood! LOL
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Tim now be cautious ??? ??? ??? ??? you have two veasels trying to git you to take them to your Super Secret Spot!!! :o :o :o :o :o Watch'em ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Shhhhhhh
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Those guns do have some pretty stocks on them. You keep yours close to the safe and I'll keep banging my around. Lol.
Really though Tim you can't go wrong with the Leupold or Zeiss in the 40mm plenty of light gathering glass for even the long shots and the carnivore lights sit perfect right on top without the problem of the 50mm bell end.
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:o :o :o :o Watch it Tim, the political machine (Pres & V Pres) is moving in for the kill :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ Your hide is gonna end up on one of their boards... ??? ??? ??? ???
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You guys crack me up. No secret super secret hunting spots for me, just ice fishing spots and that's not looking good at the moment.
Jake, I may take you up on that. Send me a PM on when you would be available.
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well now lets not forget the Nightforce and Vortex scopes, they both make some mighty fine optics... I'll let you look at my Vortex when I come up if you can wait that long...
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Nite Force is out of my range and I am looking at the Vortex.
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Since Pop's is buyin :o :o :o :o :o I'm surprised he isn't lookin at Swarovski or Zeiss ;) ;) ;)
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Vortex viper is pretty sweet on the 22-250. Mine has the dead-hold BDC with dots. ;)
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The 17 Hornet.....Now that is a predator hunters gun...I have one in a E A Brown Encore barrel... However I'm going to start to use the MGM 17 WSMRF barrel... Starting to buy ammo just in case it should fall along the way side.. What a shame they put out a cheap gun that will make people not want to use the rimfire.. Welp i'll be ready... Got like 1450 rounds of the three mfg ammo... I did have the BMAG but I sold it...It was capable of killing things.. But seemed to string after the 5th shot.. So it was not target gun... I had to run the rod through it and then it went back to shooting the next 4 dead center..I never was a person to use my predator guns for target practice...
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>:( >:( >:( Well when he get's around to eating his "Baked Oatmeal" >:( >:( >:( his Old Pop's can think about that Zeiss or Swarovski........ :P.....and not a minute sooner!!!! :o :o :o.................. 8)
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:o :o :o Pop's just so you know, ??? ??? ??? he considered my 338 Win Mag :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ but then decided against it :'( :'( :'( :'( wish someone would buy it sooos I could git a new toy :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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;D ;D Solution ;D ;D Gun to "Pop's" house and I will watch it ;D ;D ;D .............sorry about the .338 :( :( maybe my fault ::) He secret PM'd me :o and I said "Timmy me boy" if the Fisher is looking at you when you shoot ;D your going to end up with a fur doughnut hole with ears :P :P :P :P...........probably killed your sale :( :( :( :( :(..........................but...........put an ice fishing reel on it and advertise as a MINK combo gun ;D ;D ;D maybe BW will buy it ::) ...................Pop's.......... 8)
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;D ;D ;D It be a chipmunk vaporizer!! :o :o :o :o :o
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no doubt about that... I'm looking forward to a crow or barn pigeon... 8) ;D 8)
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;) ;) ;) Went to a gun shop that I've never been in before ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? walked out with a used CZ 527 in 22 Hornet :o :o :o :o :o very good to excellent condition and the price was right ;) ;) ;) ;) Now I will hafta see if my old 22 Hornet load works in this one or iffin I hafta work up one :P :P :P :P Thanx Pops I know you were thinkin about me too :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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It will probably shoot good what ever you have.
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feed it lil-gun and about any bullet you want up to 45gr or so... I use Federal sm pistol primers in mine for the lite loads, CCI BR for the heavy loads... after your first firing, neck size only...
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;D ;D Awesome ;D ;D I just want to know ??? was this legit ;) Did "Momma" know >:( or was this a carry empty gun case out the door ::) ::) proclaiming "Loudly" Going to the "FARM" hunting w/Pop's :o Then home with new firearm in case :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[....................."Nervous in Perry" :-X :-X :-X :-X I got nervous when I read the "Thanx Pop's" part ....... 8) BTW you have given up an Old Coot's super secret :P :P Now "Lookn4Experience" will be trying the "empty gun case trick" stay tuned for 2 cold shoulders... :o :o
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;D ;D ;D ;D Momma was workin... ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)....went on the adventure on my own, no one to derail me 8) 8) 8) 8) mission accomplished and home ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) took Lil Goose to lunch then mounted and bore sighted the scope :P :P :P :P :P :P next step is some reloading then range time :) :) :) :) :) Think I might hafta sell my 223 Ruger Predator, gun safe is full :P :P :P :P :P
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Jasper1
Goose poop Is in trouble now, I tried to text him but I think I hit his wife's phone number to talk about his new gun. Not sure that text went through. Will know if he's not on the board for the next couple of days.
Na, lookn4experience is not that wise yet. He still begs his wife to buy stuff. Sounds just like a little girl when he wants something rumor has it. I can't say where the rumor started but it must be fact because it,s on the Internet.
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;D ;D ;D ;D What you talkin about boy!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Momma knows about the new toy :P :P :P :P she just shook her head when I told her :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ no yellin or screamin, and no unguided missiles headed my way ;D ;D ;D ;D she is seasoned to my purchases :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
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Goosebumps she was shaking her head there's no hanky panky for you. Don't you know a woman just shaking her head at you is the same as a scud missile.
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If you old coots only have one super secret way to sneak guns into the house your nothing but rookies and will be promptly stripped of your "GURU" status. You are an embarrassment to this association! >:( >:( >:(
By the way. UsetoGooseHunt, I always new you looked up to me. You buying a CZ proves it. Now tell me how much you paid so we can all get a good laugh. ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D BW seems you are quite experienced in the scud missile area ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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>:( >:( >:( >:( Youngin the only reason I looked up to you is cause somebody put Miracle Grow on your butt as a baby and you grew too tall for your britches :o :o :o :o :o Does the term "High water pants" seem like a common reference to you?? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Lol. Quit ducking the question Lookn4Goose. How much did you pay for the used CZ? ::) ::) ::)
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;) ;) ;) ;) If I bought it ??? ??? ??? ??? it was cheap :-X :-X :-X :-X doesn't even look like a round was cycled out of the mag, and no powder reside in the barrel, no brass marking on the bolt face either :o :o :o :o :o I think this is a used new gun without the box :-X :-X :-X :-X But if you want to buy it :o :o :o :o I'll quote you a price Pop's can't afford :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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None of you copies cats would own a CZ if it were not for the fact I snuck two past the wife and you want to be as good a hunter as the rest of us CZ owners. Never going to happen.
Ask my wife how much I paid. $125 for both the 17 hornet and 17 rem and I will swear to it.
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;) ;) ;) There you go Lookin4adeal.... ??? ??? ??? ??? ???..you been out shined by another old timer 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) We keep tellin ya...don't mess with the old guys ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) and BW didn't get in trouble...take notes lad... ??? ??? ??? ??? mine didn't ask what I paid :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ but it would have been cheap.... 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Lookn4recognition
There is no reason to have a bunch of ways to sneak a new gun in. If you are good at it you only need one idea. Besides when you get older you will not remember what method you used to get the gun. So just get good at one idea instead of messing up with a whole bunch of ideas your no good at. Learn to be perfect and you only need one. Like I said earlier the young bull and the old bull story.
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>:(>:( >:( BW quit trying to confuzz my boy! >:( >:( >:( As you know he is chock full of ideas ::) ::) now he will be fretting over which idea is the "one idea" he should stick with :( :( :( so if "lookn4nIdea" shows to "Breki" (I think I heard someone vomit) and is sporting an eye patch to cover his black eye :'( :'( :'( we will know he tried a BAD idea... :P :P :P :P....we should perhaps ;) cut him some slack ??? as he is still mentally exhausted :P from trying to match wits with that lemon brain "Fisher" >:( >:( >:( >:(.............. 8)
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Jasper1
Just because he's your son I will lay off. I forgot about the mental stress he was under trying to outsmart a fisher. The stress for him striking out with his own son watching, it must be tremendous.
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:( :( :( :( Yea Lookin4fisher musta got caught in a short chain trap that really stressed him out :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( that Fisher sure put a hammer lock on the poor kid ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? and then did a strut in front of his buddy just so his buddy could rub it in :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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;D ;D ;D "Lookn4aprice" ;D ;D ;D "Goose" paid $1000.00 :o I said "Goose"!!!! Holy Excrement !!! :o :o He just laughed and said it was the smallest bill he had at the time ::) ::) and didn't feel like waiting for change :o :o.....he said if I saw you to make sure your working ::) ::) so he can continue to receive his monthly stipend :P :P :P.............. 8)
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Awwwh man :( :( :( :( now he has an idea what I'll charge him for it :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ I was gonna butter him up by telling him he couldn't miss with this one ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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When I got sick I told my son, if anything happens to me please do not let your mother sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them..
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Scott, you may not want to post in this thread. The OLD COOTS CLUB is getting more organized by the day. Before you know it they will all be gathered under one roof aka "The Yankee Doodle Diner". I hope the blenders are working that day so they can drink their baked oatmeal and prunes. ;D ;D ;D I'm taking extra diapers for pops. The prunes go through him pretty quick. :o :o :o :o
I'm first in line to inherit his truck. GooseWatcher and BuckTooth told me it's never even had a fish or drop of blood in it. 8) 8) 8) That will change the first day it becomes mine. ??? ??? ???
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I hear ya, I posted looking to buy some Geese decoys for field hunting, within 2 minutes I had a message from usetohuntgeese, I thought boy that was quick I will see what he has, then I read his post, says he has hundreds of them but he is not parting with any..
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;D ;D ;D ;D Ahhh jaspr1 the Lookin4afriend has roped one in and corruptin his mind with nonsense ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) for the shame of it all :o :o :o :o and that other youngin has the nerve to say not so nice things about yours truely ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? what's that generation coming to?? ??? ??? ??? ???
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;D ;D NO Worries! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D This is "GREAT" ;D ;D ;D ;D "WOOHOO!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Sonny is going to be bringing "Diaper's for Pop's" ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D I have to remember to eat hard boiled eggs and a yellow vegetable the night before ::) ::) and drink lots of Chocolate milk :) :) combined with the prunes and oatmeal ;D ;D ;D it will be like "OLD TIMES", when I was changing him :o :o :o As for the TRD ;D I just graced the deck ;D momentarily of course ;) ;) with Buck blood :P :P and if I'm still here next year ??? ??? I might just go to Cameroon myself and put a "Fisher" in it ;D ;D Hern said their as easy as a "grinner" to catch..... ::) ::) ::) ::)................ Old Coot Pop's... 8) "Lookn4Inheritance", Don't forget the baby powder ;) as I like my Butt baby soft ;D ;D
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Lol. There you go again. Making me sick! ;D ;D ;D
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Tim, did u see how long it took for them to reply they both must have slept in today.
What time is breakfast noon? And the old man is talking about the deer
He had in the back of the truck is that the one he rolled out of bed at noon scared it when
It was sleeping and it slipped on a wet rock and broke its neck?
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;D ;D ;D we not only have Lookin4Pops we now have BeammeupScotty....we have two youngins who think the Old Coot's priority is to sit in front of a computer first thing in the mornin :P :P :P :P :P :P....guess both only turn up the thermostat instead of stoking the fire ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) they both probably stop at Starbuckys for their Latte instead of making a pot of coffee also :P :P :P :P :P two young softies :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ glad they hafta work...oh, sorry...I meant put in the time cause real work would give them blisters :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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Now come on it is only regular coffee here and I have split more than my share of wood. But funny u should mention a blister. Was that ur nickname when you worked for uncle. Blister - only shows up when the work is done. ;D ;D ;D
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Scott ;D Yes ;D ;D That's the one ;D ;D.........."Tasty" ;D ;D...............U2 keep forgetting :( we were pups like you at one time :P although maybe not quite as clueless ::) Goose! Another "BIG" talker ::) like "Lookn4wipes" ;) only "Blisters" he probably ever had :( were the ones on his behind :'( :'( from smart mouthing his mother :P :P :P :P :P............... 8)
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;) ;) ;) AAAAh Scotthopper...aka Grasshopper.....you keep working and paying taxes to uncle and I will keep receiving my monthly check :o :o :o :o :o if you get blisters, no worry :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ they will heal and teach you the lesson to wear gloves the next time dummy!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Scott, that would be the exact deer. The way I look at it, they don't get up until noon, they should be up all night! I'm gonna offer to take the Jester1 and GooseBelly predator hunting some night. After all this site is all about predator hunting. The OLD Coots Club seems to have forgotten about that. The only problem is I only have one chair lift on my truck. They may have to sit on each others lap to get in and out. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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That is if you could get them to get out of the truck, you might have to wait for a 60 degree night so they are not complaining about the cold. there are also some advantages, a cane can be used to dispatch any wounded animals and the walker would be an awesome rest with some modifications. I just may have given Buckwheat another item to sell, customized walkers for the Old Coot predator hunter.
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;D ;D ;D ;D You two have a lot of catching up to do before you can even think about entering into the realm of the Old Coots ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? We didn't get old by being dumb :o :o :o :o :o
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Well that's debatable. ??? ??? ???
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;D ;D ;D "Goose" don't you just "LOVE" it when a plan comes together! ;D ;D ;D and they never see it coming! ;) ;) "Lookn2gityoreclockcleaned" OH Please don't throw us in the Briar Patch :o :o....LOL......"Old Pop's jest livin in feer!!! :P :P :P :P PS:"a cane can be used to dispatch any wounded animals", Scoot! ::) I mean Scott!! ::) "Old Coots" shoot to kill >:( we don't spend all night chasing wounded animals >:( >:(
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;) ;) ;) ;) Hornet went to the range today ::) ::) ::) ::) and is cat capable :o :o :o :o and the 17 be still sitting in the corner :P :P :P :P :P waiting for some one to buy him the rest of it :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ the $$$$$ your making all I can think of is "CHEAP".... :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ your son gives you the mechanism and all you need to do is glass it.... :( :( :( :( :( :( Really?? come on get with the program!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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What types of groups did u get and what bullet. Mine like the Winchester 46gr hollow point and the rem 45gr soft point.
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;) ;) ;) I roll my own; 40gr Sierra HP, with 10 grs H110, and CCI sm primer.... :-X :-X :-X :-X Hafta refine a little more as my 100 meter group was a little larger than I like, (not clover leafs) gonna push it a little faster :P :P :P but still cat worthy 8) 8) 8)
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Goose, get ya a can of Lil-Gun and see what that does for ya...
I shoot from 10gr to 13½gr with a 40gr V-Max, the only boolit I use anymore, am extremely happy with it... 10 gr shoots to one hole and the 13½ shoots to a tight cloverleaf @ 3250fps w/7 fps EV... I use Winchester brass and Fed sm Pistol primers for the 10gr loads and CCI sm rifle Match primers for the heavy loads...
this is with a 26" barrel K-Hornet, so don't expect to get those speeds out of your shorter barrels...
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Goose
Don't fret on the young'uns. They don't really work; They be employees of the Govamint
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Dale I rolled some this afternoon....but will look for some Lil Gun :o :o :o I haven't used that powder ??? ??? ???
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back in the 70's and 80's when I was loading for them I always had a tough time finding a load to shoot good... got rid of them and didn't get another one till I started on the Encores in the mid 90's, went to lil-gun then and never looked back...
gonna use it for the 17 HH when I start loading that also... that could be a while though, I have 3 cases of factory ammo to shoot up first...
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;) If the rain holds off, I'll be back on the range tomorrow mornin 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Today's look..both are 3 shot groups
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Nice groups Goose!
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Nice Shooting Tex
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Darn good start!
Take Dale's advice and try some Lil' Gun. My CZ527 hornet shoots just about everything good, but Lil' Gun is amazingly accurate
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;) ;) ;) Yea...I need to go to my reloading supplier for some Lil-Gun, as I have none :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
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>:( >:( >:( >:( and my suppliers have none :P :P :P :P :P :P
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where can you get this amazing powder?
is there any reloading data for this powder?
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;) ;) ;) I would call your reloading supplier and see if he has any...I know two that I buy supplies from locally do not have any in stock. :P :P :P You can order it but it gets a little pricey since it's a hazardous material. :o :o :o :o :o Bass Pro, Cabelas, Gander, they may have it but I wouldn't bet on it....
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I'll check a couple places on the way up and see if I can find some...
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Thanx Dale!!
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;) Rolled 10 rounds with 10.3 gr of Lil Gun and topped them with 40 gr. V-Max ??? ??? ??? now hafta git to the range and cut some paper...hope this snow has melted getting into the range :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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I'll be anxiously awaiting to hear your results...
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I am just in awe of how well the 17 Hornet factory ammo is accurate.. I have yet to reload it.. Looks like Goose did well with the H110. I like to hear how the LIL Gun works out for you as soon as you get a chance to use it... I will say one thing about the 17 Hornet... I have made me some $$$$$$Fur money using that caliber. However you hit the fox low in the chest it's going to rip it!! So the logic... if you have a good fox gun and we get a year that you get at least $20 -$40..bucks.. The 17 Hornet going to pay for itself!!!
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That's why I take head shots with my 17 Hornet. Using the Tri X shooting rest and with the tight groups I shoot with my 17, I don't think twice about taking a head shot.
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:( :( :( First loading wasn't pretty, hafta play a little more :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
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Goose are you loading a 17 or a 22 Hornet?... with a 40gr bullet, I'd think it was a 22, go to 12 or 12½gr and see how that shoots, work your way up from there...
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22 and this past load was 10.3gr...
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yeah just bump it up to 12gr and go from there...
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:( :( :( It's suppose to rain the next couple of days :P :P :P :P so I'll roll some and wait for better weather 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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This isn't the 22 hornet or weather thread. Please stay on topic! ;D ;D ;D ;D
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This isn't the 22 hornet or weather thread. Please stay on topic! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yes please stay on topic, I got chastised for not staying on topic and even had a post removed. I will report this to the off topic police. By the way I killed this bobcat at 736.7 yards with my 17 bucking a 35 mph east to west wind and I held dead on. Can't beat a 17, HMR that is. Suppose to hit 80 today.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/johnp18/Cats/Bobcat-Nov405004.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/johnp18/media/Cats/Bobcat-Nov405004.jpg.html)
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CoyoteJohn that's a decent shot for most. But if you learn your windage and your elevation you can even go further. The longest shot I ever made was on a cotton tail rabbit. I just happen to have had to bullets soaked in salt for 3 days. I don't have a range finder to read how far it was, but it took me long enough to get there that the salt soaked bullet kept the meat fresh until I walked over to it. So yeah you should learn to use your turrent and windage knobs out past 800 yards. The 17 HMR is a man's caliber in the right hands.
Just trying to keep this post on track. I don't want to be accused of hijacking anyone's post.
Our heck, I now see it in the 17 hornet is being talked about
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;) ;) ;) CJ a fine looking kittycat...Lookin4anexcuse didn't get a kitty this year with a his new 17 Hornet or a 375H&H either, so it appears that someone is jealous :o :o :o :o :o :o just sayin ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Lol
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My partner for the past umpteen years took this guy with his .17 Hornet at about 35 yards. I never seen him coming in nor did I see him fall but my buddy said he fell like a ton of bricks.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/johnp18/StevesCoyote001.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/johnp18/media/StevesCoyote001.jpg.html)
Was not a fur friendly shot. About the size of a softball.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v603/johnp18/StevesCoyote002.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/johnp18/media/StevesCoyote002.jpg.html)
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:( :( :( CJ posted "Was not a fur friendly shot. About the size of a softball. " I hope you guys are paying attention to the 17 Hornet ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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I have yet to reload the 17 Hornet for my Encore barrel... Most of my shots are at the 100 yard mark using the Hornady 20 grain factory VMAX... I do rip the red fox if I hit them on the lower part or the torso.. Kills them dead that's for sure. however at 100 yards using factory if red are shot in head, mouth, chest, sure above shoulder i'm still getting what someone gets for trapping a red fox..