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Predator Hunting => Guns and Ammo => Topic started by: broknaero on March 24, 2006, 10:39:12 AM

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: broknaero on March 24, 2006, 10:39:12 AM

whats do you all find as the best fur friendly round fox fox, but still large enough to take coyotes down at 100 yards?

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: gdragon on March 24, 2006, 10:53:09 AM

You'll probably get a dozen different answers but .22 Hornet and .17 Remington will likely be the most common two though.

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: broknaero on March 24, 2006, 11:04:20 AM

yeah, the 22 hornet will work(my calling partner uses one) . but seems there is an accuracy problem with that round. not easy to get a tight group.
and the .17 rem is way to much velocity for a one hole hide on a fox.

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: broknaero on March 24, 2006, 11:09:29 AM

anyone have luck with the .222 or .221 ? or are these too much on fox?

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: Dale on March 24, 2006, 12:51:02 PM

Quote from: "broknaero"

yeah, the 22 hornet will work(my calling partner uses one) . but seems there is an accuracy problem with that round. not easy to get a tight group.

don't know what his problem is, but mine will shoot one hole at 100 yards all day long... if you're shooting factory stuff look at the WW 45gr sp or 46gr hp, both very accurate for factory ammo...

for handloads, there is only one powder for the hornet and that's Lil-Gun with near any bullet you want, but I've found the best accuracy with 40-45gr bullets...

is your partners gun a CZ?...

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: jay on March 24, 2006, 01:01:14 PM

Dale... was talkin about my little stick barrel hornet... His shoots shotgun groups at a 100yds or was it 50yds I can't remember. Hee Hee Hee

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: broknaero on March 24, 2006, 01:49:10 PM

no my friends is a ruger. ive been looking into the cz's never had one or shot one, but i hear plenty of good things about them. just ordered a custom .19 badger on a CZ 527, with a pac-nor barrel.  hope its what im lookin for. its a 2month wait, so i have lots of time to ha and hum over it.

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: jay on March 24, 2006, 03:23:14 PM

LOL... Sorry Dale just had too do it... Remington just came out with a Hornet in a model 799 I think looks pretty nice, but for me I'll stick with the proven Browning Hornet that for sure, it is very surprising for a little stick barrel gun...

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: castor on April 10, 2006, 10:24:24 PM

i am using a 243  fusion in 95 grain for yots . it might be to much but i wanted a heavy bullet for deer if i wanted to use it for that.

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: psubowhunter on April 23, 2006, 10:10:57 PM

Anybody here use a .17 HMR rimfire on fox with success.

I just picked up a Ruger 77 .17 HMR and it is one sweet shootin rifle. I am going to break it in on some chucks  :D

Title: 12 GA kill range
Post by: ysp1503 on October 30, 2006, 11:57:05 AM

What would be the maximum range you could shoot fox and have a clean kill using a 12 ga, 3"mags w/copper plated BB's. I always figured about 50 yards. Is that about right? Thanks

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: 220_Woody on October 30, 2006, 06:53:47 PM

only way to know for sure is to set up some targets at 10yd intervals and draw a fox sized target on them.....shoot them with yer scattergun and count up the pellets. them bb's will penetrate just fine out to 50yds on a fox...but its the number of bb's that get there that matters.
go pattern yer gun....i'd say your lookin for more than 5 or so holes to anchor a fox......just my opinion anyways....anyone else care to jump in?

~Woody

Title: shotshells
Post by: jaspr1 on October 30, 2006, 07:31:39 PM

Where are you locating those 3" copper plated BB's  :?: They certainly will do the job, but as Woody says you have to know where the bulk of the BB's are going..My brother found 1 box of 2 3/4 Federals box was so old it was coming apart...but paid only $11.00 for them.. :)

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: TrappinJohn on October 30, 2006, 08:16:19 PM

Here ya go

http://www.natchezss.com/product.cfm?contentID=productDetail&prodID=FAP158BB

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: ysp1503 on October 30, 2006, 09:11:30 PM

Thanks........sounds like a good idea........I'll give er a try.

Title: shotshells
Post by: jaspr1 on October 30, 2006, 10:26:19 PM

Thanks used to get those Natchez catalogs occasionally...haven't had one in awhile...

Title: Re: shotshells
Post by: Dale on October 31, 2006, 10:21:38 AM

Quote from: "jaspr1"

Thanks used to get those Natchez catalogs occasionally...haven't had one in awhile...

ya need to buy something once in a while ya cheapskate... I just got a new one yesterday...   :twisted:    :twisted:    :twisted:

Title: shotshells
Post by: jaspr1 on October 31, 2006, 02:20:43 PM

I will forgive you this one time, for calling me a cheapskate,  your just overly tired from hunting all night.. :D You need to get to bed...by 10am...Tonights trick or treat, go like you were dressed at the NC hunt and you will be sure to scare the beejeezes out of them... :D  :D Don't eat to much chocolate or you'll get zits and you don't need anymore problems... :D  :D And by the way since we're in the guns and ammo section, I have a question :?:  :?: That 1 fox you shot, was that hit from your being a poor shot :?:  or is it from the hornet being a little inaccurate like Richard thinks :?:  :?: Just wondering :D  :D

Title: fox/coyote
Post by: Dale on October 31, 2006, 03:52:51 PM

the one missing the lower jaw?... was shot exactly where I aimed... when we shot under the lights the other week I forgot to tap the turrets to settle the adjustments in and only shot one shot... it was still an inch high on the target and that's what I compensated for on that shot... after that they were all aimed for and shot up the snoot or between the eyes...   8)  

there's nothing wrong with the way the Hornet shoots and I've been feeling good about my shooting so far this year... on groundhogs and fur...