Million dollar question

[Leglifter]

Are you trying territorial sounds or distress

[muttbuster]

Just distress. It usually brings in something. We have not changed anything from what we do on a good night. That's why I was wondering what went wrong.

[Leglifter]

Only if they're hungry or maybe curious.
If they're not hungry, they could be territorial
If not territorial they could be wanting to mate
If not wanting to mate they could have a strong maternal instinct
and pup distress would work.
You see where I'm going

[muttbuster]

Yep. We did use the pup distress too. It didn't work either. Maybe since it was Valentines day they were looking for love. I'll have to remember that for next year.

[Trophiesonly]

I often wish I could sit down and talk with a Coyote and Fox for an hour or two.

If you ever get to Hern,write a book.You will be makeing more money than foxpro.

[Leglifter]

Remember the story about the farmers boy yesterday?
That coyote heard me distress, interrogation howl and ki-yi
but didn't respond till he heard the boy howl 1/4 mile away,
only then did he start barking.
And why would he go upwind instead of downwind?
Did he want the other two coyotes to smell him instead of him smelling us?

Two years ago me and a partner called in a double with interogation howls.
These two were bedded up 300yds away and they heard fox distress rabbit distress and mouse squeaks
but only howled back and came in after the howls we did.
So I'd say these two(male and female) were territorial

[Leglifter]

I often wish I could sit down and talk with a Coyote and Fox for an hour or two.

If you ever get to Hern,write a book.You will be makeing more money than foxpro.

I liked a book by Slim Pederson, Life Of A Coyote.

[muttbuster]

I'll have to look for that book. I'm still learning about the coyote. I'm not a slacker so I will master the art. I guess I'm obsessed with the stink dog.

[Hern]

double L says-
I liked a book by Slim Pederson, Life Of A Coyote.
Me too, but that was Slim's viewpoint.

double L says-
That coyote heard me distress, interrogation howl and ki-yi
but didn't respond till he heard the boy howl 1/4 mile away,
only then did he start barking.
The Coyote thought there were two new Coyotes in it's territory.
Here's a good example....
After a non-productive calling setup with a partner, I like to bark and yip then having my partner bark and yip back at me. What I am trying to create is two Coyotes square'n off.
We want to be aggressive and 'tell one another off'...bark'n and yip'n. If a Coyote is in earshot, he will come to check out the ruckus. Two seasons ago, a partner and I started our setup with this method and connected within minutes on 3 different setups.
I might add this method also works for den hunting livestock killers.

[muttbuster]

Hern, that's a great idea. Do you put some distance between you and your partner or are you close together?

[Leglifter]

Good stuff Hern
I like splitting hairs

[Hern]

Thank you muttbuster. It's not an idea, It's a proven method I worked on.
The distance between me and a partner is 30 to 100 yards, depending on setup and terrain.

I was hunting with CritterBuster, Tracker and Predator10X one weekend several years ago.
Before one setup, I ask CritterBuster when he was finished working his magic (if we didn't get any shot'n), to bark and yip. I would then bark back at him.
CritterBuster and Tracker called and sounded great making beauitful music, but no customers for 40 minutes. Then CritterBuster began to Bark then Yipped...my cue...I returned the Barks and mimmiced his responce. Within minutes 3 Coyotes appeared. No shots fired. But they surely heard the other 40 minutes of call'n, distress and such.

[Hern]

Here's a must have book....
Eastern Coyote
The Story of Its Success
by Gerry Parker

contact:
Nimbus Publishing Limited
P.O. Box 9301, Station A
Halifax, N.S. B3K 5N5
(902) 455-4286

this isn't a hunting book
It's an indepth book about Coyoteogly, facts, reseach and studies by boiolgist from the east.

[muttbuster]

Thanks a lot Hern. I'm going to work on that for sure.

[foxpro51]

Some guys tell me they either hunt for fox or coyotes here in Pa. . Not both. In Texas and Wyoming both anilmals come to both distress calls. Same animals. I see not difference. Being there is a limited amount of coyotes in Pa.  i tend to hunt for fox and take coyote as bonus. If you call for Coyotes with a howler you just blew out every fox in the arera.