hanging bait for yotes and fox?

[prdtrkilr223]

This may seem really dumb but I had this idea while daydreaming in class today. I thought about taking some sort of dead animal carcass such as a chicken or rabbit and hangin it about four ft off the ground so that it was against a large tree. Then place a trap set at the base of the tree. The idea behind it is simple. The scent will carry well because of the whole carcass hangin above ground level. The dog will try to stand against the tree to reach the bait an will either get caught as it approaches or when it puts its hind feet in the trap as it reaches for the bait. Maybe this has been done before an I'm a retard. I don't know . Thought it sounded like a good idea. I have chickens and drive 20 mile to school everyday so there is no shortage of rabbits layin along the road. Any thoughts?

[jeremybrua]

it is illegal....

now if you put some call lure on the tree and made a dirt hole or urin post near by that would work.

[prdtrkilr223]

I wasn't aware of that? That doesn't make sense. We can hunt over a bait pile of dead critters but can't use them to trap? That seems kinda contradictory don't it. Thanks anyway

[prdtrkilr223]

Ok wait a minute, I just got out my reg book and this is a quote from page 17 taking advantage of food or bait- any natural or man made nonliving bait can be used to attract coyotes for hunting or trapping. Now I'm really confused

[jeremybrua]

Bait cannot be visable from the air.

[prdtrkilr223]

I'm not arguing with you or anything but where does it say that in the reg book?

[jeremybrua]

Under the trapping regulations.

[Lookn4Fur]

Jeremy is correct on this.

[prdtrkilr223]

Ok I found where it says about this in the book on page 76. I'm still confused about the logic of the people who make these regulations. It don't make any sense that we can hunt over a pile of dead stuff but can't trap under it. 

[Lookn4Fur]

You can trap under dead stuff as long as its not visible from the air.  I believe this is to protect birds of prey like owls, eagles and hawks.

[jeremybrua]

Trapping regulations are alot diffrent than hunting.  You can shoot a beaver, muskrat, mink inits a trap but not if if its just running around.

[prdtrkilr223]

Ok if the reg is supposed to protect birds an what not then this type of set would not endanger them at all. Iff the dead critter is hanging against the tree and the trap is in the ground at the base of the tree four feet away from the critter then there is no danger to birds of prey. They hit stuff from above or sideways. I think this reg is meant for putting dead stuff on top of or very near traps in the ground in the middle of a field or somewhere. Just a thought

[jeremybrua]

Good luck with that.

[Lookn4Fur]

I am not a WCO.  If you want clarification or explanation, you need to contact the PA Game Commission.  Certainly you are not that desperate to catch a critter enough to stretch a law?  We don't always like, approve or agree with laws but they are in place for reasons and we should respect that as ethical hunters/trappers.

Good Luck this year.........Tim

[Hern]

I've been hang'n bait from trees since boyhood.
Tainted bait works best and cold weather produces good results.
My method is to place bait in burlap bag (hence 'not visible from air') but nowadays mostly place bait in a sock to hang.
Am a slow learner, but Fox told me (on snow) how they work  this setup and where to place trap for blind sets.
Just a tip for folks that use cables...Sock method works for cable situations.
Another note...for bait pile users...with your bait pile, add a tainted hang'n bait. The hang'n bait will keep 'em interested and come'n for more when you are lazy and don't replendest the bait pile.