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Everything Else => Suggestions => Topic started by: predator77 on January 28, 2009, 09:07:35 AM
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If you want to know who is a officer just check out our web page ... ??? Plus I'm not sure our members would want their information posted for all to see on the web page.
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Membership renewal notices are sent out before that membership is up.
Your district officer/coordinator should know who is in their district, you could ask them (dist6- longhair and Pual555)
You could just post an invitation to hunt with a fellow district member.
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Why is everyone against knowing who is an active member and who is not? :-\
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Everything that people want public is on their profile and the email and pm link is under their
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I don't think anyone is against knowing who's active.
and the inactive members( ones that did not rejoin) are not members, why would they want their info
on a site that they don't belong to
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If they posted it in the members only forum, wouldn't they be in good standings?
I don't know how long I'VE been a member, and I don't think it matters.
seniority doesn't equal respect
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Like I just told BigBen. If Joe Blow is in a picture with fur throwing up the hand signal for a hunt then we go to the members page and see that joe blows membership ran out in Dec. then the points don't count or if he participates in any way. When I joined I read all about if your in good stadings with the club you can do this and that but how do you know who's in good standings or a member at all anymore.I don't want this blowing up like the last arguement. but I hear alot of people running their mouths about "these guys that's only been here a month running their mouths" It would be nice to know just how long everyone has been here.
the officers have a meeting the afternoon of the hunt and then we will decide on who won the DvsD hunt. I am not sure I understand most of the newer posters on here but we have done two hunts just like this one to a extent and they were fine. no problems what so ever. if a person posts kills and is not a member then they don't count simple as that.
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it aint a secret. I told you everyone who is a member should have a membership card. ask your district coordinator to look at the membership list if you must have a look.
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Forget I suggested it. Maybe we can start wearing masks in our pics to so nobody knows our identities.
good idea. bp will make a topper outta ya if you don't.
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haha! I'm glad he's on my team.
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if he keeps it up I am gonna have to use my ultra high skill level with photoshop to embarass him. lol
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Get him Ben!
HE sooooo needs it, plus he's running out of ammo lately
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I think he is getting bored. no one is lashing back at him here. maybe he ought to go mess around with DH over on the predator hunter a bit. been aweful quiet over there lately. maybe if the steelers loose this weekend he might just go dissapear for a bit.
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Maybe ;D they don't want there picture without dentures. Really, anyone who takes fur should post there name and photo on this web site if they can't make checkin.
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if he keeps it up I am gonna have to use my ultra high skill level with photoshop to embarass him. lol
Me? Embarassed? ;)
I'd just like to know how many members we have. I've never heard an exact # since I've been a member.
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The secretary (nice guy) can give us a direct answer on the true amount of members. We need a list for check in since Longhair is out. Were is the post on minute meeting held the other day? A break down of members in each district would help for future membership drives. Non -profit organization are require to post info like this.
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Have you contacted any of the district VP's and asked them how many members are in that district?
The President?
The Vice President?
The Treasurer?
The Secretary via PM or email or phone and asked them?
Paul should have a list of all the active members in your district.
Disclosure ruling for NPO is financial....not a roll call.
There does need to be a better way of notifying members about their membership expiring....I know I never got anything and mine is soon up.
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Membership roll call is part of finanical. Membership an't free. I agree a running list of membership when due is needed. That should be easy.
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Have you contacted any of the district VP's and asked them how many members are in that district?
The President?
The Vice President?
The Treasurer?
The Secretary via PM or email or phone and asked them?
As a matter of fact yea. 2 posts above yours I did. I've asked various officers over the years and the first post in this thread did. I've done it privately and publicly and never get an answer. Must be some real top secret stuff or nobody knows.
The bestest answer I ever get is something like this: Well, before the Randy Anderson seminar it was around 200, after the seminar it was around 350, right now, it might be 100. It appears the folks with the secret number are ashamed or something.
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Straight from the NPO laws:
4.6: Disclosure or Availability of Information to the Public. Any NPO with significant activities or assets or with substantial public support should be required to publish or make available to the public a report of its general finances and operations; this report may be less detailed than the reports filed with the general supervisory organ, the taxing authority(ies), or any licensing organ and should permit anonymity for donors and recipients of benefits in addition to protecting confidential or proprietary information.
I am agreeing that it would be nice to know what our membership numbers are...but making names publicly known is not required. I personally could care less if my name is made public about being a member....I have even put it in the contact page for district 4 and put my contact info in the Newsletter.....but I am sure there may be some that just dont want their info put out there. And thats their prerogative.
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WE are going the right direction again. This statewide hunt has generated alot of interest and a lot of fun on this web site. Our executive officers have done a fine job. We just need to iron out the bugs and add more programs. This weather sucks for predator hunting. We will try anyways. Allmost 2000 posts this month. That has to be close to a record.
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WEll what are the number of members in each district? Apparently,you are an officer and can give us a direct number without names,
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He's not an officer. I agree about personal info, I'd just like to hear a grand total #. It would be interesting to hear each districts population also.
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I'm not an officer, never said or insinuated that I was
If I knew the numbers I would gladly tell you though....I dont think its a bad idea to know numbers.
BP we were typing at the same time.
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Each district count is VERY VERY important. It can help me build equal membership in my area. It will also help in setting up events for all members . Knowing the membership numbers can also help us get new members,
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if you want to know how many members are in your district and/or the PPHA as a whole...contact the Secretary.
actual names will not be given as this is private information. only executive officers & district officers are allowed access to the membership roster. if memory serves me right....years ago someone(former member) who had access to our membership roster used it for a mailing list for a private clubs coyote hunt....lets just say there was a big problem with that from alot of people.
if a member wants to link up with other hunters in his or her district....use the 'contact exchange' forum, that's what it's there for.
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220 WOODY, Why can't we just post member numbers per district. What's the secret
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no secrets FoxPro51....all you have to do is ask.
*to the officers~ can i suggest that membership #'s are added in the posted officer meeting minutes and are broken down by district. please? this will keep the membership informed.
thanks! ;)
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Earl if you know people that would make great members....talk to them...what does it matter if D6 has 10 times the membership the other districts have?
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LIFES2FUN What's it matter if the Steelers have 25 players on the field and Arizonia has 12? Answered
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Is that what is important to you? Who has the most members? What's the difference?
I know for a fact when I was sending out the renewal reminders in late 2007, D2 had more than D5 and D6 combined. So I'd say you better get recruiting.
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That doesn't sound like a problem to me.
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I can tell you how many active members are in district 5
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lookin4fur. good answer
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no secrets FoxPro51....all you have to do is ask.
*to the officers~ can i suggest that membership #'s are added in the posted officer meeting minutes and are broken down by district. please? this will keep the membership informed.
Woody, I made that exact request to George right before last meeting and he told me they shot it down.
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I want to know why it's a secret more than I want to know how many. When you ask a simple question, you expect a quick and easy answer. When the question goes unanswered, you have to wonder why the question isn't so simple.
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I'm waiting for the word Bill
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Just so I know, how would knowing the numbers help with getting new members?
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Just so I know, how would knowing the numbers help with getting new members?
me too......
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LegSniffer, I never said that, I just asked a very simple question
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I didn't say you asked,
The secretary (nice guy) can give us a direct answer on the true amount of members. We need a list for check in since Longhair is out. Were is the post on minute meeting held the other day? A break down of members in each district would help for future membership drives. Non -profit organization are require to post info like this
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lets just say this d6 is pretty low on the list. keep up the good work though fellas you doubled your active membership in one meeting. looks like d6 is on the way up.
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Legsniffer, Go easy on soxglow51.
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I'm easy, PP
I was just wondering how it would help, honestly
you never know
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I know. I just wanted to say LEGSNIFFER again!
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I've been waiting to say PP, also ::)
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Well get it out of your hand and say it!
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Both hands
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Small mitts I reckon?
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Running out of material again?
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Looks like you did. Keep working at it. Better yet, buy my book.
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The numbers are up on the PPHA members forum
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no secrets FoxPro51....all you have to do is ask.
*to the officers~ can i suggest that membership #'s are added in the posted officer meeting minutes and are broken down by district. please? this will keep the membership informed.
Woody, I made that exact request to George right before last meeting and he told me they shot it down.
if I remember correctly I thought having a public memberlist got shot down. not the amount of people in a certian district. one of the officers correct me if I am wrong
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Just so I know, how would knowing the numbers help with getting new members?
So now I know, The events are held in the center of the state and around half of our membership in from the center of the state. With that being said maybe it's the events themselves are the reasons 3/4 have that emany members. So if we did 2 seperate events (east and west of D3/4) we might recruit members.
I mean ,honestly it's only fair.
you are starting to sound like obama spreading the wealth around.
the reason why there are a bunch of dist4 members is because I try to do activities to keep the membership up. keep having meetings and showing that d6 is growing and you will find more will come.
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Like what kind of events?
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P77 whats your zip...I'd like to check the difference in distance between you having to go to the North Central Hunt and Me (a Dist4 member) I'll even just go from my house to Renovo, instead of my house to camp and then the 50 miles, one way, of dirt state forest roads I had to take from camp to Renovo, but it was my choice...and both my wife and myself enjoyed ourselves. Even had a chance to take her out with me hunting.
I'll even check the picnic if youd like......
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We are gonna have are own hunts and picnics,they dont have to be ppha,77.
If they are not allowed to be without involveing the whole organaztion.I dont know what the ppha laws are on that.Foxpro51 said we are haveing the picinic at his place.He is even getting Kenny Chesney.We cant ask for much more than that.Also even though the picnics are out East,there isnt much of a turnout at them.We will be fine.i am going to try to make it out there some.Even are district officers have not made all the events because it is kind of far.I feel it also needs more on a East,and West side.
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the picnics aren't out east they are out west for me.
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Ben i think p77 is looking at the whole membership.But even getting members is hard as most predator hunters like to hunt alone as it is more productive in my book.I dont mind going out with new friends but most of the time,i just enjoy going out.I think it will grow some in d6,but like out there it will take time.
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Trophies....you would have a further drive than me(but I'll trade ya roads ;D)...but heres my next question....why dont you guys put together a North West Hunt? There was a former member here who held (still holds just isnt PPHA anymore) a hunt at his camp in the North East.
The North Central hunt was put together by BigBen this year and I believe Buckwheat previous years.
As for the State Wide picnic...I, personally dont care if it gets moved or not, if I can make it, I will, if I cant swing it in the schedule...I wont (thats why I couldnt make it this year)
Every hunt we set up in the PPHA(for the whole PPHA) has NOTHING to do with any individual district....they try to put it in the center for equal driving from far west or far east. Nothing to do with D3 or D4. It is also setup so EVREY PPHA member is allowed to attend....the issues I see coming from you guys right now is...you are trying to be invite only(If I am misunderstanding what you guys are typing ro trying to say then I'm sorry). Thats not the way the PPHA should be.
As for holding a District picnic...thats a great idea..if you guys want to hold one with a great entertainer....I say go for it...I hope it boosts your membership. If you expect the PPHA to pick up the tab without any concerns above a normal meeting...I doubt the officers would go for it (and I dont think they should)
But I want you guys to understand one thing....it doesnt matter if you have 5 members in a district or 50.....if those 5 members are active members and 48 out of the 50 do nothing.....those 5 will have a bigger impact on what gets accomplished.
So dont worry so much about numbers.....Like Ben said in another thread....when it comes time for the picnic....take the reigns...if you choose to move it out west...just pick a great spot and make it awesome.
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Ben i think p77 is looking at the whole membership.But even getting members is hard as most predator hunters like to hunt alone as it is more productive in my book.I dont mind going out with new friends but most of the time,i just enjoy going out.I think it will grow some in d6,but like out there it will take time.
ya there are many members like that. but the ppha is more then that. not all of us go out hunting with one another. some just like to talk predator hunting and that is what happens at our meetings. most like to talk at the events without fear that it will get regurgitated at some other site. most of the newer hunters myself included understand that it took you fellas years to come up with your techniques and such. we don't pry but I do believe that each and every one of us are happy if you share just one tip. if nothing else the storys and bench hunting is what makes a event. alot of stories.
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Whats with all the complaining/whining? ??? Freaking ridiculous ... so what if one district has more members then the other! (http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x208/keystoneman_85/smilies/violin.gif) (http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x208/keystoneman_85/smilies/wah.gif)
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Right, that should be incentive to get your district's numbers up. For the club
But its not all about the dist with the higher numbers, its an overall, statewide accomplishment
to have more members, statewide. We're all in it together
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im not complaining.I have hung around with paul,i just cant take the ride anymore,i used to go to Elezebethtown,susquehenna,(spelling},above interstate 80,up 220,apast PSU,just to run hounds for the weekend.Just cant make it out there,with the lyme disease,and such.I didnt mean the ppha had to pick up any bill.I meant like a small cookout.And i didnt join to be competitive at any hunts,etc.Even though i will try my best.I joined for the things this organazation stands for.Thats helping the PA. predator hunter.Laws etc.I am by far no pro.I kill a few fox,and a yote or 2 a year.And call alot for the youth predator hunters till they learn.It is my hobbie,that im addicted 2.
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im not complaining.I have hung around with paul,i just cant take the ride anymore,i used to go to Elezebethtown,susquehenna,(spelling},above interstate 80,up 220,apast PSU,just to run hounds for the weekend.Just cant make it out there,with the lyme disease,and such.I didnt mean the ppha had to pick up any bill.I meant like a small cookout.And i didnt join to be competitive at any hunts,etc.Even though i will try my best.I joined for the things this organazation stands for.Thats helping the PA. predator hunter.Laws etc.I am by far no pro.I kill a few fox,and a yote or 2 a year.And call alot for the youth predator hunters till they learn.
you sound like a heck of a fella. hope to meet ya someday
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Same here.Got a friend who is mad because i joined,and was real mad when he found out i brought Paul here hunting.He is a big time money hunt hunter.I must say he has it down,but he keeps expanding his territorey,and bitc_es about me fox hunting those spots.Thats why i asked longhair to see if they could move the hunt back.I know he didnt win the mosquito creek hunt,but he joins about 15 hunts,in 2 weekends.Probably makes about 3500 avaerage.Both are nice guys and live within 2 miles from me.I have to try to stay out of there areas,they use that money to pay for there out of state liscense,etc.
So i myself am going to start hunting the east more.I will try to make the picnic.Hope to see you fellows there,and good luck this weekend,and watch it is very slippery out there,at least where im from..
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his first name aint dale is it?
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ypu,how did you know that.
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lets just say me and him had a runnin on hunting pa. besides him calling me a fat ass and nothing but a wannabe hunter that only talks about it with a ten inch chin kinda makes a guy think he is a jerk.
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i dont think he even gets on any hunting sites.And he wouldnt call anyone any names.He isnt that way.
He is like 50 years old.But he is a super hunter,good at about everything.But he would never call anyone names,im certain.What is his handle on huntinpa.
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go ask him what he thinks about bigben once. he has been kickin sand in everyones eyes over on huntingpa under the name dalewilderman. you may think he is a nice guy but the way he treats others he sure acts like he is only allowed to hunt coyotes and he is the best dang coyote hunter in the world. oh and if you use a foxpro instead of a powerdogg then you are stupid and if you use lightforces you are a wannabee that has no clue.
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Any District can hold their district meetings any way they want...if they want to hold it in the form of a cookout.....that would probably be even better...I believe Dist4 even held one at a members house.
I believe the PPHA will pick up the food to a certain amount (Woody posted it earlier) above that, covered dishes work great.
Districts can do TONS of stuff as districts or even host stuff for the entire state....there are proper channels to take though.
I am working on something right now....I think it can help the PPHA tremendously ...but I still have to ask and go through the proper channels...I took my idea to my district VP...he took it before the rest of the Exec board.
I have concerns about how it can be handled...just as they do...but ultimately I have to abide by what the board has to say when it comes to the PPHA.....Its called following the chain of command
I think this petty bickering about district numbers does nothing...like I said....there are smaller districts that can have a larger impact on items with the club...just by being active.
When it comes to the hunts....this is why they are "bragging" hunts....basically theyre fun...with nothing really to win except friendships.
I could sit and cry saying its unfair because other districts have less hunting pressure than we do...but I dont...I deal with it and go out and do my best and ultimately just have fun....thats what these hunts are for...not to be questioned constantly about fairness.
I can't understand why it seems to mean so much...I guess I never used hunting as a competition tool....I did enough competitive sports when i was younger to get that out of my system. I do it because I enjoy it.....I love to see everyone's pictures and stories about how they harvested their game....on other sites...hunter success threads are my favorites
Like I said....just go out and have fun and hunt....whatever district wins...we all need to have enough class to say...congratulations!!!
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im not complaining.I have hung around with paul,i just cant take the ride anymore,i used to go to Elezebethtown,susquehenna,(spelling},above interstate 80,up 220,apast PSU,just to run hounds for the weekend.Just cant make it out there,with the lyme disease,and such.I didnt mean the ppha had to pick up any bill.I meant like a small cookout.And i didnt join to be competitive at any hunts,etc.Even though i will try my best.I joined for the things this organazation stands for.Thats helping the PA. predator hunter.Laws etc.I am by far no pro.I kill a few fox,and a yote or 2 a year.And call alot for the youth predator hunters till they learn.
you sound like a heck of a fella. hope to meet ya someday
Second that.
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we have a guy with that name about 15 miles from here,he is a retired WCO,and his son has the same name.Dale would use his own name,i know him better than that.And Randy doesnt even know how to run a computer.Dale is very quiet about his yote hunting,and he is quiet period.I think its the wrong Dale.He doesnt use a computer much either.He works alot.He is in the painters union.I agree also shawn.I think some here are just jokeing around more than anything..lol
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we have a guy with that name about 15 miles from here,he is a retired WCO,and his son has the same name.Dale would use his own name,i know him better than that.And Randy doesnt even know how to run a computer.Dale is very quiet about his yote hunting,and he is quiet period.I think its the wrong Dale.He doesnt use a computer much either.He works alot.He is in the painters union.I agree also shawn.I think some here are just jokeing around more than anything..lol
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checked huntinpa.That isnt him,some of his posts was while he would be working.And the other man im talking about his last name is wildman,not wilderman,didnt catch that at first.I have no clue who this guy is.But it isnt dale pushey,he wouldnt argue,or say anything about the way someone else hunts.I do not know who this guy is or if he is even from my area.
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lets just say me and him had a runnin on hunting pa. besides him calling me a fat ass and nothing but a wannabe hunter that only talks about it with a ten inch chin kinda makes a guy think he is a jerk.
He really nailed it!! ;D
Just kidding of course.
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seems like dalewilderman is actually someone else and not who he says he is. maybe he is trying to make other hunters get mad at one individual? hard to say. and I did not ask for any lip from the class clown. lol
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Predator...you have about 30 minutes more drive than me from home( you may even have a longer drive , because mapping is never 100% on time, or mileage for that matter)....but thats without me going to camp...then over...my cabin is about 3 hours(one way) from my house.....and about 2 hours(one way) from where we held the luncheon.
I know one member made it form Erie area which is about a 5 hour drive I think he said.
As I said...if its too far..get with your district VP and ask them to host a SW hunt....or a NW hunt.
And as far as driving is concerned...(I dont care about driving...doesnt bother me personally) but why would it be fair to make those in the far east corners drive 6 plus hours to attend a state picnic on your doorstep?
Like Ben recommended...when its time to hold the picnic...step up....take the reigns...and find a place for it. Those that can attend, will.
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no secrets FoxPro51....all you have to do is ask.
*to the officers~ can i suggest that membership #'s are added in the posted officer meeting minutes and are broken down by district. please? this will keep the membership informed.
Woody, I made that exact request to George right before last meeting and he told me they shot it down.
if I remember correctly I thought having a public memberlist got shot down. not the amount of people in a certian district. one of the officers correct me if I am wrong
no actual names Ben....just the #'s is all i was lookin for. i dont want my name broadcast across the web as much as the next guy. ;)
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I personally think ya'll oughta move all the activities to central VA so I don't have to drive so far... I got almost 12 hours to make the picnic... didn't make it this past year because of scheduling conflicts but made it the year before and plan on it this year... ya'll need to quit yer cryin about having to drive a little bit and get into the club spirit... and that's all I have to say on that matter...
you want hunts closer to your district then put them on... you want meetings, cook outs etc... put'em on... there's enough people here who've traveled across the state for hunts, BBQ's, meetings etc...
when I was up there there was never a GC meeting I didn't attend... I was there making comments etc with people in power that could help us as a club... only ever presented to the whole board of commissioners one time, but would collar folks outside and whisper in their ear... you'd be surprised what influence a person can have just showing up regularly and talking with folks...
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Keystone, I don't think that was the complaint at all. sorry, I posted in your quote.
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It appeared that way to me. If it wasn't my apologies.