I usually don't go after turkey in the fall on purpose and limit myself. I hunt fall toms with a bow. I will go out still hunting for deer/turkey, shoot one while fox hunting in the day or pop one out of the stand. To many times I would be calling fall turkey and have bucks come with in range and all I have is my 12 ga. I have seen 6 longbeards hanging around in a group. I'll try for them.