yeah a few of the guys i know that shoot nothing but sav's swear by them, and recently I went shooting with a group of friends and out shot a ruger m77 in 6.5 creedmore, a .270 in rem 700, and a few custom rifles that cost well over 1000 to build. They then in turn shot my savage, and afterwards they're eyes were saucer like. Even got an offer or two to buy it, but I had to turn'm down. Hopefully, soon I can buy a hornet or a fireball and retire to the .223 to chucks and yotes only, until then it is my only predator rifle.